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Good Westerns. John Wayne and James Arness Were Never Replaced. Are Westerns Dead in America?
Associated Content ^ | 1-11-2010 | Sherry Tomfeld

Posted on 01/11/2010 11:34:55 AM PST by stillafreemind

Not only are there no stand outs as far as actors go, but writers don't seem to be able to come up with an interesting western story line without nudity, extreme violence and horrible language. Why is that? How did Gunsmoke last those many years without nudity? A shy grin, wink and a nod between Matt Dillon and Kitty was sufficient and somehow much more palatable than seeing them rip clothes off and get down to business.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: classicwesterns; hollywood; jamesarness; johnwayne; westerns
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To: Mr Inviso
Nathan Fillion would fit right into many Westerns.

Yes, there are many Firefly props and sets that could be taken directly from a Western. They even added Western-style slang into the dialogue.

I like how Captain Reynolds was kind of a bastard (albeit moral) in the first episode or two. In have the DVD set. In the commentary, it's revealed that the network forced them to soften up Captain Reynolds to make him more likable.

101 posted on 01/11/2010 2:05:34 PM PST by matt1234
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To: stillafreemind

During his life, Buffalo Bill Cody was the single best known person in the world.

His Wild West Show toured the world.

Portrayed on the big screen several times.

(my grandfather worked in the show, when a young man)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill_Cody

A trip to Yellowstone Park should be combined with a daylong visit to the Buffalo Bill Historical Center; a worldclass museum opf the American West.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill_Historical_Center

The permanent exhibits include

-Cody himself
-Plains Indians
-Firearms
-Western Art
-Natural History

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Bill_Historical_Center


102 posted on 01/11/2010 2:10:10 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Sherman Logan
Quigley Down Under.

Excellent catch and excellent movie. If anyone has seen it and is wondering what I am talking about, you have seen the cut they showed on one of the networks. They cut the one scene that draws everything together and makes sense of the whole movie. It is a truly awesome scene, too. It happens after Quigley's (Tom Selleck) final fight with Marston (Alan Rickman).

If you haven't seen the theatric version, treat yourself and rent it.

103 posted on 01/11/2010 2:24:53 PM PST by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: Rappini

Wash your keyboard out with soap.


104 posted on 01/11/2010 2:29:40 PM PST by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: Yorlik803

I also enjoyed “Broke Trail” the TV miniseries with Duvall.

good good guys, bad bad guys.


105 posted on 01/11/2010 2:41:59 PM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: lack-of-trust

I also enjoyed “Broken Trail” the 2006 TV miniseries with Duvall.

good good guys, bad bad guys.


106 posted on 01/11/2010 2:45:05 PM PST by lack-of-trust
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To: stillafreemind
I loved the Wagon Train tv series.

The whole 50's the tv was filled with westerns.

Rifleman was one of my favorites.

107 posted on 01/11/2010 2:46:26 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: brytlea

You are right liberal killed westerns. Thre is a rather alrge market out there for a god western but it would almost need to be funded privately but if someone could do it they would almost be guaranteed a large market that would probably blow away everything else at the box office.


108 posted on 01/11/2010 2:59:54 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: lack-of-trust

Broken trail was good. I would like to get the DVD so on one snowy weekend I could wtach it at my leisure.
Unforgiven was a good one. When Hackman told that story about the “Duck of Death” in the saloon, it was one of the better parts.


109 posted on 01/11/2010 3:15:46 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: matt1234
Gene Roddenberry said that his Star Trek series was a Western set in space.

Bill Shatner and DeForrest Kelley actually starred in a lot of Westerns before Star Trek.

110 posted on 01/11/2010 3:16:46 PM PST by gogeo (Lefties...making small minded pettiness seem...well, fashionable.)
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To: mware

Have Gun will travel is now on Encore Westerns.
That was a good show as well.


111 posted on 01/11/2010 3:17:41 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Kartographer
Homoerotic? Man, you're seeing things I sure as hell didn't! I saw a movie about a man who gave his word to do something, and did it, even though no one else had the guts to help. All in the name of making sure his family was taken care of. Hardly homoerotic themes.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

112 posted on 01/11/2010 3:27:04 PM PST by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: matt1234
Try the “Firefly” TV series. It’s set in the future but is basically a Western. The creator said he based it on “The Searchers.” If you like “Firefly,” there’s a follow-up movie called “Serenity.”

Silly, there are no cows in space*...

That's because they can't see the sky & they forget what they are...

Mark

* Halloween episode of Castle

113 posted on 01/11/2010 4:46:02 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: gogeo

Dee Kelley got to play BOTH sides in the O.K. Corral faceoff, as Morgan Earp in the 1957 film, “Gunfight at the O.K. Corral” and a decade later in the Star Trek episode “Spectre of the Gun” when he was “forced” to be a member of the Clanton gang by the Melkotians.


114 posted on 01/11/2010 5:16:20 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: daniel boob
Josey Wells is violent - but justifiable because of the gruesome way his family died.

The movie tells a good story of what was happening to the north and south (and thise caught between the two).

The border war fought between KS and MO was one of the bloodiest and violent during the war, as far as innocent civilian lives taken goes. Both the Union and the Confederacy committed horrendous acts of violence against non-combatants, particularly by The Red Legs (as depicted in "The Outlaw Josey Wales") and "Quantrill's Raiders." Neither of these groups were officially sanctioned by either the Union nor the Confederacy.

Mark

115 posted on 01/11/2010 5:17:42 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: BenLurkin

OMG! You are so right. You must be referring to Unforgiven. Gene Hackman as a sherrifg ...yeah..LOL

That “revisionist” western was awful—Eastwood committed sacrilege by undermining the elements best westerns post 1960 - Leone’s spaghettis -

At least he used to kick ass in that green pancho...


116 posted on 01/11/2010 5:29:03 PM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: daniel boob
Josey Wells is violent - but justifiable because of the gruesome way his family died.

The movie tells a good story of what was happening to the north and south (and thise caught between the two).

BTW, The Sacking of Osceola, MO" was said to be the inspiration for "The Outlaw Josey Wales." Though the Redlegs were involved, it was primarily the "Jayhawkers" who pillaged, executed 9 civilians, and pretty much burned every building in the town to the ground. To say there was a lot of bad blood between KS and MO was a terrible understatement.

Mark

117 posted on 01/11/2010 5:32:40 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: eleni121
Actually I was thinking of this bizarre movie -

But most -- for some reason I don't care for his performances. They are all identical whether he's playing a sheriff of Lex Luthor.

BUT -- I know people who think he's great, so ...

118 posted on 01/11/2010 5:39:33 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: magslinger

I thought I would a quick answer back.


119 posted on 01/12/2010 5:34:46 AM PST by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: BenLurkin

His performances in both French Connections was superb.

HE sucks the oxygen out of The Conversation which is overrated IMHO.


120 posted on 01/12/2010 7:57:57 AM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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