Posted on 01/02/2010 1:12:36 PM PST by Twotone
Video of the state of affairs in Detroit.
Why would young people want to stay in the Rust Belt? Especially if they can live in a warmer climate and head to the beach instead of freezing their asses off.
Living there now. Just showed my GF that video. She agrees, that is an accurate reprsentation of the state of Detroit. It’s third world. Toledo isn’t as bad by any means but we are close enough to Detroit that we can’t help but be affected by its decline (the decline of the automotive industry) and there’s a real fear that we haven’t seen the worst of this recession/depression throughout Toledo (and all of Ohio really). I imagine the next set of mortgage resets will be the coup de grac for a lot of states including Ohio and Michigan. We’ll see.
Wow... I’m reminded of New Orleans post-Katrina, especially with all the boats laying around. And such beautiful old houses just rotted away—makes me sad that our once great country has deteriorated so.
willy’s is open again but the jeep plant doesn’t exist.
I think the reason Toledo is being called Little Detroit is because people are fleeing to Toledo and bringing their problems with them. Toledo already had enough of their own. I’ve read the Blade and can’t believe what I read. A clerk in a corner carryout in my old neighborhood (Lewis Ave) shot and robbed. All the shootings are unbelievable.
My brother said they took out Willys? Or is it Overland Pkwy for 475. My Grandapa worked at Willys Overland.
yeah, there was another murder that night too. The city is giving out bogus parking tickets now (to avoid laying off city employees I assume).
Yep, Detroit was and is a jewel of the Automotive History, it will be a tragic loss;
Significant Residents of the Boston-Edison Historic District
http://www.historicbostonedison.org/history/people.shtml
Automobile Pioneers (read biographies)
Charles W. Avery, developer of the moving assembly line at Ford - 1626 W. Boston.
William B. Bachman, one of the founders and early president of the Automobile Club of Michigan - 803 Longfellow & 1130 W. Boston.
George M. Bacon, designer of the Detroit Electic car - 161 Longfellow.
Harry L. Bill, factory/general manager of Chalmers Motor Car, Winton Motor Car, Saxon Motor Car, Metzger Motor Car, & Tudhope Motor Car - 10 Longfellow.
Charles L Bockus, production manager, Studebaker Corp. - 1175 Chicago.
Carl Breer, executive engineer, Chrysler - 2435 W. Boston.
Walter O. Briggs, president of Briggs Mfg. (maker of car bodies) as well as Detroit Tigers owner (Briggs Stadium) - 700 W. Boston.
James Couzens, treasurer and original shareholder, Ford Motor Co., as well as Detroit Police Commissioner, Mayor from 1919-1922 and U.S. Senator - 610 Longfellow.
William C. Cowling, sales manager, Ford Motor Co. - 1646 W. Boston.
Charles Newman Dawe, chief metallurgical engineer, Studebaker - 2426 & 2284 Longfellow.
John W. Drake, president of Hupp Motor Car Co. - 650 W. Boston.
Alfred O. Dunk, manufacturer of electric cars and president, Auto Parts Manufacturing Co - 631 Chicago.
Margaret T. Fisher, mother of the seven Fisher Brothers - 101 Longfellow.
Charles T. Fisher, president of Fisher Body and vice-president of General Motors - 670 W. Boston.
Alfred J. Fisher, VP of Fisher Body and director of its aircraft division - 1556 Chicago.
Edward F. Fisher, general manager of Fisher Body and director of General Motors - 892 W. Boston.
William A. Fisher, of Henkly Motor Co. and president of Fisher Body - 111 Edison.
Carl H. L. Flintermann, president of Wilcox-Rich Co. (automotive engine valves) - 1232 W. Boston.
Henry Ford, president of Ford Motor Company - 140 Edison.
Charles A. Grant, founder Grant Motor Car Co. - 2020 Longfellow.
Elmer W. Grinnell, manager, Grinnell Electric Auto Co - 1101 Chicago.
Ira L. Grinnell, president, Grinnell Electric Auto Co. (and Grinnell Brothers music) - 650 W. Boston.
Henry P. Hellmuth, of Scripp Motor Co. - 2437 Longfellow.
Fred E. Holmes, president of Fred E. Holmes Co (automotive suppliers) - 831 & 960 Chicago.
Benjamin A. Jeffery, founder of Jeffery Dewitt Insulator Co. (spark plugs) - 741 Edison.
Henry B. Joy, original platter of Joy Farms subdivision.
Henry Krohn, general sales manager and vice-president of Paige-Detroit - 1187 Longfellow.
Charles E. Lambert, president of Regal Motor Car Co. - 611 W. Boston.
Peter E. Martin, first Vice-President of Manufacturing, Ford Motor Co., during the Model T era - 1486 Chicago.
William E. Metzger, organizer and sales manager of Cadillac and E-M-F Auto companies - 56 Longfellow.
E. Mack Morris, general manager of the Model Automobile Co. & the Great Western Automobile Co. - 1136 Edison (now demolished).
William T. Nash, secretary-treasurer of Lincoln Motor Company - 1444 Edison.
Truman Newberry, businessman and Senator - original platter of Boston Boulevard subdivision.
Meyer L. Prentis , treasurer of General Motors and philanthropist - 664 Chicago.
Martin L. Pulcher, president of Federal Motor Truck - 101 Chicago.
Horace Rackham, original Ford Motor Co. shareholder and well-known philanthropist - 90 Edison.
Adam H. Sarver, president of Detroit Durant Motor Car Co. - 655 Chicago.
Claude Sintz, founder of Claude Sintz, Inc (fuel linkage systems) - 924 Edison.
Barney Smith, vice-president of Cadillac Motor Co. - 1347 Chicago.
John H. Thompson, president, Thompson Auto Co. - 1210 W. Boston.
Harold Van Baalen, general manager of the Electric Automobile Co. - 1548 Longfellow.
Sidney D. Waldon, vice-president of Packard Motor Car Co. - 160 Longfellow.
Albert M. Wibel, vice-president and head of purchasing, FOrd Motor Co. - 1747 Longfellow.
David E. Williams, of Liberty Motor Car Co. - 2460 Edison.
C. Harold Wills, the designer of the Model T - 650 W. Boston.
DuBois Young, vice-president (later president) of Hupp Motor Car Co - 1197 Longfellow.
Yeah I read about the other murder. I just didn’t expect one around Lewis and Eleanor. That used to be a safe neighborhood.
Hupp Motor Car
http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/hupmobile/faq.htm
What might they be known for?
Through the years HUPMOBILES participated in all types of competition. Noteworthy events included: around-the-world endurance trials (1910-1912), visit to all the state capitols (1916), 1932 Indianapolis 500 race (finished 5th) and many local endurance-type competitions.
The first police car for Detroit was a 1910 Hupmobile. The US Army used Hupmobiles in WWI as General staff cars, to visit the front lines, and as ambulances. Train/car race from Capetown to Johannesburg, South Africa, in 1924 (Train won the race). Train/car rematch race in 1990, (Car won this time).
Hupmobiles were made for dependability more than speed, and set many endurance records. This gained a loyal marque following. In 1927 a survey showed that over 40% of Hupmobile owners were repeat buyers when their old Hupps came due for replacing. Another survey in 1937 showed that over 200,000 Hupmobiles were still licensed in the USA and 57% were still driven by their original owners. This survey also showed that more than 75% wanted to stick to Hupmobiles.
Is the car on the US $10.00 a Hupmobile?
No, the periodic rumor that the car on the old-style US $10 bill is a Hupmobile has been strongly denied by the US Mint and the Bureau of Engraving. The original engraver used a composite of many US cars so as not to favor any one manufacturer.
Detroit was used as an example in the History Channel series, “Life After People,” 25 years after people! Forget the exact stat but something like 60 sq miles of the 140 sq miles of Detroit are abandoned and in ruins.
RECORD > Detroit Public Library
Hupp Motor Car Company workers
Title Hupp Motor Car Company workers
Date c.1911
http://grp.lib.msu.edu/mmm.lib.msu.edu/search/imagedisplay.cfm?i=EB01a068
Description 5x7 black and white sepia-toned photograph mounted on 8x10 gray matt board showing group of men posed beside a factory.
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Here’s the whole link;
Institutions » Detroit Public Library Collections
http://grp.lib.msu.edu/mmm.lib.msu.edu/search/browsedisplay.cfm?PageNum_items=1&t=2&subcol=52
Items of the subcollection Detroit Automobile Factories
Now THERE'S a memory. I remember my dad used to park down by the river in back of Tiedkyes. I recall walking through the store (past the popcorn machine) and hearing loud Elvis music on the speakers. The leather in the store display SMELLED like leather - and I bought my first transister radio there - straight from Japan when it was brand new technoloy. Wow, things I haven't thought about it years and years (the Adorn hairspray flips hairstyle days). My youngest brother worked at Jeep and my other brother worked for LOF before both moved away. Like Detroit - EVERYTHING seemed to be auto inidustry related. Thank you.
I loved Tiedke’s. The owner wanted a “circus” atmosphere and he achieved that. It was a joyful place to shop. The one across from Westgate never achieved the same atmosphere.
Sad. I grew up in country between Flint & Saginaw. In the 4th grade our class went to Greenfield Village. As a teen I went to concerts at Cobo and the Greek Festival on the river in the early 70s. Once I visited a friend somewhere in the city & was fasinated by the wonderful huge stately homes in the neighborhood she lived in. It was no longer a good neighborhood but you could get a good idea of what it once was. I did not know Detroit well but enjoyed listening to my mother-in-law talk about growing up there. Her stories were so vivid & the pictures she put in my mind are what I think of initially when I hear “Detroit”. It is so very sad to see what “Urban renewal” and other socialist programs have done to what once was one of the best cities in this country.
Give me a Red Wells roast beef sandwich.
My dad was from Toledo. My grandparents lived in the suburbs and exurbs thereof, we went to visit them frequently growing up. It became obvious to me later in life that Toledo was full of knee-jerk union liberals of the worst sort. The Toledo Blade was (maybe) one step to the right of Soviet-era Pravda in their political leanings.
And people wonder why the town has gone to crap.
My grandmother used to work the Christmas season at Tiedtke’s in the toy department back in the ‘60s.
Amazing to hear that about Franklin Park and Southwyck. We used to go to both all the time. I haven’t been to Toledo in some years.
I think Gary, Indiana was used in that series too.
When the rumor of "Obama Ca$h" hit Detroit, there were near riots.
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