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To: The Comedian
This is such tripe. If you look at actual government collapses, like the USSR, Argentina, Zimbabwe, etc. etc. you will notice a trend. Nothing really changes, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the currency gets trashed and replaced and old obligations (pensions, SS) get eliminated.

There is no rioting, no one rebels, hungry beaten down people don't do that kind of stuff. Life goes on, but now it is a reduced life, money for food and clothes takes priority.

The way to prepare is to prepare financially. Wasting money on guns or any of the survival stuff is worse than stupid. Getting a foreign source of income is important.

29 posted on 12/17/2009 7:38:43 PM PST by LeGrande (The government wants to take over the entire Health Care industry to fix Medicare and Medicaid.)
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To: LeGrande

Im working on my debt. Ill be free of credit cards by March at the latest..my other debt is zero. My car is long paid off and so it the house.

When the credit cards are paid off Ill feel much freer.


36 posted on 12/17/2009 7:48:31 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (The dead night tiger made whole by the Master of Sinanju)
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To: LeGrande

OK, I was following you right up until you said we don’t need guns or “survival stuff,” what we really need is A FOREIGN SOURCE OF INCOME?........

I am a cynic, and think that most people will lie down and take whatever misery is forced on them. BUT, I think more people in the United States will be willing to get creative and resist than in countries with cultures of submission. What was that quote about “a rifle behind every blade of grass.” That isn’t so in our cities, but it sure IS so in flyover country.

Secondly, a foreign source of income is likely to be less than useless in a serious meltdown. Doesn’t it make more sense to have a piece of land on which you can find, grow and hunt what you need to eat? They are available all over the country for practically nothing. I have one. Beats the heck out of a foreign source of income! LOL!


39 posted on 12/17/2009 7:53:37 PM PST by PinkChampagneonIce
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To: LeGrande

What you ignore is that there is no other people on earth as armed and historically free as the average American. When we were beaten down we rose up and threw off our chains. We will do it again. It is ignorant to compare us Americans of Western Culture heritage to those tribal clumps that you listed. We are different. The world will be reminded of this fact.


65 posted on 12/17/2009 9:09:35 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: LeGrande

“Wasting money on guns or any of the survival stuff is worse than stupid”

You are kiding right?

When the SHTF you can just throw money at em.

I think I’ll stick with lead.


69 posted on 12/17/2009 9:58:15 PM PST by Circle_Hook (Keep your powder dry.............You might need it soon!)
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To: LeGrande

“...Getting a foreign source of income is important...”
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Can you give me some examples of this? - thanks


86 posted on 12/18/2009 5:03:50 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: LeGrande; All
This is such tripe. If you look at actual government collapses, like the USSR, Argentina, Zimbabwe, etc. etc. you will notice a trend. Nothing really changes, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the currency gets trashed and replaced and old obligations (pensions, SS) get eliminated.

You are making a near-fatal mistake in assuming the only kind of collapse will be a slow-descent currency or banking-related failure. If that's the case, then you're correct. But in all of those cited examples, strong external nations retained their integrity, infrastructure, and political stability. This is not likely to occur again, especially if America, the planetary anchor, goes Tango Uniform.

New Madrid super-quake? Seattle tsunami? Planet-wide mutated super-flu? Jericho-style domestic nuke(s)? Solar or man-made EMP? Or how about a simple banking network failure or cyber attack that causes SS and welfare payments to be delay for *two weeks*? Or Monkey Boy is proven to be inelligible and every city with a Martin Luther King Jr. Street goes up in screaming flames?

We are, at any moment, two meals or one CBS news broadcast from anarchy.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

89 posted on 12/18/2009 7:22:24 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: LeGrande
Yes, yes, of course. I've NEVER seen anyone have to stand in line for food and shelter.

You go ahead and wait in line to feed those you love. I'll be at home, safe and feeding my family without having to depend on others.

Additional sources of income are fine, but why not do both, just in case?

112 posted on 12/18/2009 9:13:34 AM PST by teenyelliott (Insanity - voting the current two party system over and over, expecting different results.)
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