Posted on 12/15/2009 11:44:44 AM PST by a fool in paradise
The Stooges, Genesis, ABBA, the Hollies and Jimmy Cliff will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at the shrine's 25th annual ceremony on March 15 at the Waldorf Astoria hotel in New York City. They'll be joined by David Geffen and a cadre of songwriters -- Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil, Ellie Greenwich & Jeff Barry, Jesse Stone, Mort Shuman and Otis Blackwell -- who will receive the Ahmet Ertegun Award for non-performers.
The ceremony will be broadcast live on Fuse TV.
Surprisingly not making the cut were KISS and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who were thought to be frontrunners when the short list of nominees was announced in September.
Genesis keyboardist Tony Banks tells Billboard.com that the induction is "nice to happen" and that it's an honor to be the second British progressive rock band, after Pink Floyd, to join the Hall. "I suppose it being American-based and all that it just concentrates slightly more on that type of music," he says. Which members of Genesis might perform at the ceremony is somewhat up in the air due to Phil Collins' recent surgery to repair dislocated vertebrae. "Phil's got a few physical problems at the moment which means I don't think he'd be able to play, so...I don't really know what that means," Banks says. "We'll face that particular hurdle when we get to it."
Hollies veteran Graham Nash calls the group's induction "well-deserved," noting that "they were a very large part of the British Invasion. They were a very large part of early, you know, English rock. They had a couple of dozen Top 10 hits (in the U.K.), and hits over here (in the U.S.), and why not?" His longtime colleague Stephen Stills was "so happy" for Nash and cracked that "now he can quit feeling inferior" because Stills and David Crosby have each been inducted into the Hall more than once. But, Stills adds, "I thought (the Hollies) was a great band, and we all wanted to sing like that. The fact I ended up with one of their singers is one of the luckiest things in my life."
ABBA is unlikely to regroup for a performance at the March ceremony, but the Stooges, in the wake of founding guitarist Ron Asheton's death in early January, have already been planning a 2010 tour with "Raw Power" era guitarist James Williamson. The group has been nominated for the Hall seven previous times.
Number 2 on the all time record sales list. Live performances that packed out huge stadiums world wide when they were still together. As for your Rock and Roll "requirement" - I'm sure there are many performers in the Hall of Fame that you would agree belong there, and yet they are not "Rock and Roll" performers. What criteria do you suppose is necessary?
This was overdue for ABBA just as it continues to be overdue for KISS. And I don't particularly care much for KISS's music.
I say put the non-rock and roll performers in as “influences” but not in the hall proper.
The rap, disco, and country halls of fame won’t be inducting pure rock and roll artists any time soon.
Do those pants belong to the Staypuff Marshmallow Man?
They should just call it the RIAA-Rolling Stoned Magazine Hall of Triumph and put a greatest hits CD booth by the entrance.
I thought they’d both famously passed out at shows. The Who got an audience member to play the set for them.
Peter Gabriel? Yes. Phil Collins? No.
Benny and Bjorn wrote another top rated musical named “Kristina fran Duvemala.”
It is about the emigration from Sweden to America, based on well known historical fiction by Wilhelm Moberg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-pCdmWc0A0&feature=related
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristina_fr%C3%A5n_Duvem%C3%A5la
How does ABBA qualify as an early influence? You think a new category should be created? I disagree.
It isn’t about about what you like. The Beach Boys are not closer nor more distant from “Rock and Roll” than ABBA. And ABBA is arguably closer than Johnny Cash.
Perhaps you should get busy on having the following past inductees tossed out of the Rock and Roll Hall of fame then:
The Beach Boys
Woodie Guthrie
Bob Dylan
Louis Armstrong
Johnny Cash
Good luck w/ that.
Johnny Cash recorded for Sun Records and played rockabilly.
Abba sang Fernando and Dancing Queen.
Applaud their success but don’t call it rock and roll.
Bob Dylan did turn to rock. And the commie folkies hated him for it.
Beach Boys were rock. Who told you they weren’t?
Louis Armstrong is a great singer and musician but didn’t play rock and roll. Why impune his legacy to claim his greatness as a rocker?
Woodie Gutherie didn’t rock. He was in influence on Bob Dylan but then so was Link Wray (who also inspired John Lennon and Pete Townsend) who DID play rock and was insulted as being just a “one hit wonder”.
An “early influence” is not a new category. It already exists. Like the “non-performer” category to backslap the movers and shakers (who also often saw to it that the performers themselves worked like slaves for the labels but were shorted millions in revenue earned).
http://www.rockhall.com/inductees/inductee-list
For the second time, it isn’t about what YOU like.
Citing a couple of songs that others (including me) don’t like in an attempt to rally support doesn’t change anything. (athough I do recognize the tactic)
They are in. Deal w/ it or contact the hall of fame to complain to them.
Trivia...their song "I Can't let Go" was written by Chip Taylor, the brother of Jon Voight (and not the one with the Chrysler)
Nice little gem from their "I Can't let Go album - "Fifi the Flea" (Graham Nash on lead vocal)
The hall is a fraud, that is my point. Jann Wenner doesn’t know rock and roll and he doesn’t know where a penis goes.
Plain and simple is it like a Grammy, the inductions aren’t a good barameter of “the best” or even the historical record. It’s all about the industry of corporate music which sometimes includes the co-opting of rock and roll.
The category EARLY INFLUENCE has had no inductees since 2000.
So then, are you suggesting that ABBA should be categorized an early influence, or do you want a new category?
It ain't real complicated unless the facts are in the way of what you want...
The problem is that the Hall IS about what Jann Wenner likes. It’s basically his personal backslapping party. Jann has made it very clear that acts he doesn’t like don’t get to be in the Hall, and that would stink even if Jann had decent taste in music, it’s even worse because he doesn’t.
I thought the story was The Who’s drummer at the time didn’t show up, Keith Moon walked up said he was better than the guy they had anyway and played with them. After he broke the bass pedal they had him join.
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