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Japanese ladies long for date with brutal men of history (girly men dumped)
The Times(UK) ^ | 12/12/09 | Richard Lloyd Parry

Posted on 12/12/2009 9:08:01 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Edited on 12/12/2009 11:36:12 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Masamune Date is not an obvious heart-throb for today

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: badboys; bushido; history; historyladies; japan; masamunedate; masculinity; mishimayukio; rekijo; samurai; women
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To: vladimir998
They want a modern girly man to understand their feelings and be supportive of all of their pursuits.

My wife brought this point up once. I told her "That's what your female friends, mother, daughters, sister and even my mother and sister are for." She never mentioned it again.

121 posted on 12/12/2009 6:40:44 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: razorback-bert; Tax-chick

WOW!

I *love* the FRee Republic because I learn something new every time I sign on. It is literally true: there would have to be an entire University’s worth of knowledge here, and access to some of the finest minds in America and worldwide, all waiting to be tapped, all readily available in an easy-to-digest format. An incredible resource.

I never new that about the Wedding Tackle preferences of Antient Greece and Rome, and now I am jolly well going to read up to confirm that, and the cross-dressing Emperor, and Tax-Chick’s question about whether Antient Greeks had chiseled abs. I would never have thought to do this otherwise, except that I’d read it on the FRee Republic.

Long Live the FRee Republic! And God Bless Jim Robinson!


122 posted on 12/12/2009 7:29:59 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Clemenza; gaijin; TigerLikesRooster

One of the things that strikes me as most odd about Mishima is really something odd about Japan. Here was a guy who put together a private army, the “Tatenokai”, dedicated to protecting the Emperor, and instead of people saying, “Wait a minute, what’s going on here?”, his army was allowed to train with the Japan Self Defense Force.


123 posted on 12/12/2009 8:27:54 PM PST by wideminded
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Escapism.

Mental escapism from reality.

124 posted on 12/12/2009 10:19:10 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (State Dept: "North Korea broke 742 agreements with the USA. But trust us! THIS time its different!")
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To: vladimir998
He was gay though. To say he was a complicated figure would be an incredible understatement.

A lot of Nazis were closet gays as well, Ernst Rohm didn't even try to hide it.

125 posted on 12/12/2009 10:25:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Last Dakotan

That is exactly what happened over there, didn’t it?


126 posted on 12/12/2009 11:32:45 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (State Dept: "North Korea broke 742 agreements with the USA. But trust us! THIS time its different!")
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Born in the US because his parents were with the symphony and travelling at the time. That still doesn’t make him NOT Chinese.

I am talking acting. Nakadai was a great actor. Bruce? So-so.


127 posted on 12/13/2009 12:35:43 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I’ve been FReeping all these years for many of the same reasons. No matter what the subject is, the community of FReepers knows everything about it, and will share at length. Just the book recommendations would be worth all the donations I’ve made over the years.


128 posted on 12/13/2009 6:21:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (Here I come, with a sharp knife and a clear conscience!)
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To: ReneeLynn

> Born in the US because his parents were with the symphony and travelling at the time. That still doesn’t make him NOT Chinese.

(grin!) nice try!

Hong Kong was a British Protectorate in 1940. Being born in San Francisco made him an American Citizen; had this not been the case and had he been born in Hong Kong, I put to you that he would probably have been a British Subject (as opposed to a British Citizen), and thus entitled to protection by the Crown but not entitled to settle in the UK without additional permission. He would have qualified for this thru his Dad.

He would probably not have qualified for a ChiCom passport.

He was ethnically Chinese/German.

> I am talking acting. Nakadai was a great actor. Bruce? So-so.

I’ll concede that.


129 posted on 12/13/2009 7:35:40 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Haha, I wasn’t ‘trying’ anything. That’s what I know about Bruce Lee. I don’t think he ever really thought of himself as an American citizen. And I don’t think most people born in HK during British rule thought of themselves as British subjects. You know the ‘Chineseness’ is a very strong thing. And he got fed up with Hollywood when his idea was stolen and David Carradine became the star of ‘Kung Fu’.


130 posted on 12/13/2009 11:34:45 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Plenty of photographic (and I do mean graphic) evidence here
131 posted on 12/13/2009 4:09:08 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
Oh believe me, I don't need the photos, I know all about pre-democracy, pre-surrender WWII-Japan and the atrocities of it's troops before they were totally vanquished and we hung their leaders and they turned over a completely new leaf. I have talked to I don't know how many of their victims much later in life.
132 posted on 12/13/2009 4:12:59 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (State Dept: "North Korea broke 742 agreements with the USA. But trust us! THIS time its different!")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Here aniki


133 posted on 12/13/2009 4:14:22 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream.)
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To: historyrepeatz
Geez, it took 29 posts before someone finally made the thread worthwhile... thanks hr.
McDonalds - Animal Growth Hormones Are Good For Something, Hippies. Demotivational Poster

134 posted on 12/13/2009 8:15:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: ReneeLynn

LOL I concede, FRiend.

In my dreams I would have given my left nut to have a few lessons with Bruce Lee, if for no other reasons than to tell grandchildren about it. I’d settle for lessons from one of his immediate students and still feel privileged beyond measure.

> And he got fed up with Hollywood when his idea was stolen and David Carradine became the star of ‘Kung Fu’.

I think we can certainly agree that this was a travesty, and a nonsense. No disrespect to David Carradine, but he looked about as Chinese as I do!

You’re right about Bruce Lee’s sense of Chinese-ness — after he abandoned Hollywood he went back to make movies in Asia, where he felt he belonged, and where he did his most amazing stuff. I never tire of watching Bruce Lee movies.

> Haha, I wasn’t ‘trying’ anything. That’s what I know about Bruce Lee.

And you would be right, too — I was being a smart@rse and determining his Chinese-ness by his place of birth and/or his place of immediate ancestry (US and UK Protectorate, respectively), rather than his physical appearance or his personal preference or antient heritage and culture.

Rather like what should happen to the Natural-Born-American-ness of somebody else famous that we both know and love. Applying the same standard to both seems abundantly fair.

How the latter of these ought to be determined should inform the determination of the former, all things being equal...

(Grin!) (Ummmmm... waitaminit! Checkmate? — perhaps, but only if you are a Birther, like me...)


135 posted on 12/14/2009 2:58:08 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’ve got to admit it; I love the look of “bishonen” Asian men. The smooth skin and youthful, almost feline appearance. I have a picture of Goro Inagaki on my computer desktop. Does that make me gender-confused? Perhaps, but life goes on.


136 posted on 12/18/2009 7:50:47 AM PST by SySnootles
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