What's The Difference Between "Birther" And "Truther"?

November 28, 2009 | Man50D

[BGHater]

Dude, your asking for it. Just play the game.

[skeeter]

Incoming...

[Man50D]

Dude, your asking for it. Just play the game.

What game? The game that denies open and honest debate?

[rightly_dividing]

IBTZ

[Just mythoughts]

What's The Difference Between "Birther" And "Truther"?

The were both 'birthed' by Hillary Clinton for her self serving political purposes. The 'truther' gave way for a Soviet style inquisition to make President Bush look like a liar and a deceiver.

Now clearly Hillary stayed well outside of the perimeter of the 'birther' movement, but she has NEVER denounced it either. And somehow in spite of the delivery she got to be in charge of WHAT? State Department!!!!

[Michel12]

Open debate on a crazy report by a lying rag?

[verity]

You seem to have an abundance of free time on your hands.:-)

[ncfool]

5 -4-3-2-1 gone

[Jeffrey_D.]

[cripplecreek]

Fire does melt steel and we haven’t seen the birth certificate.

I may not believe about the military being prepared for war but I’m certainly not going to get nasty with you about it.

[SnakeDoctor]

Let it go, man. This isn’t a public site, and it isn’t your site. The owner has the right to filter unwanted content.

The problem with conspiracy theories is not that people on here aren’t smart enough to decipher — it is the type of people that will be attracted to the site if conspiracy theories are allowed to run wild. It’d be a self-fulfilling prophecy ... conspiracy theories attract conspiracy theorists, and the site spins off the deep end.

SnakeDoc

[StatenIsland]

Well, in answer to your question, I’ve always thought that a *birther* is a birth-certificate skeptic and a *truther* is a 9/11-was-an-inside-jobber.

I didn’t think that the million-man army rumor fit into either category.

[240B]

Clearly this guy, or someone who is using his account, is begging for the zot.

Maybe a DU thing?

[Man50D]

Open debate on a crazy report by a lying rag?

That could very well be. I'm not disputing that point but at least some credible evidence to buttress the claim and allow other people to express their opinions instead of summarily pulling the thread.

[thecabal]

LOL, you must have a FR death wish.

[Man50D]

I may not believe about the military being prepared for war but I’m certainly not going to get nasty with you about it.

Glad to hear it. I feel the same way. I certainly wouldn't outright call someone a liar simply because they post a thread on a particular subject.

[JoSixChip]

"What's The Difference Between "Birther" And "Truther"?"

The truther's have been proven wrong many, many times. The Birther's have yet to be proven wrong.

[fr_freak]

I don't think it is appropriate to lump the birth certificate issue in with every conspiracy theory out there. The "birther" issue is simply a demand for proof, rather than an assertion of facts. Obama and his people have claimed that he is qualified to be president, yet his family history and birth circumstances leave room for doubt in a couple of different ways and "birthers" simply want to see documentation to resolve the issue. This is a fundamentally different approach than an assertion that Obama is readying the military for civil war or that Bush bombed the WTC. In the latter two examples, people are asserting facts which they have no real reason to believe and which cannot be disproved with simple documentation. There is no possible way, for example, to disprove the WTC truther conspiracy theory because it is a theory not based on facts which can be disproved. The "birther" issue, on the other hand, could be resolved with simple documentation, although there is a legal question regarding the definition of "natural born".

In short, not all conspiracy theories are equal.

[jessduntno]

“Clearly this guy, or someone who is using his account, is begging for the zot. Maybe a DU thing?”

That reminds me; I have to check the strings of lights for the Christmas tree to see which bulbs are too dim to stay on the tree...I remove the ones that are really dim and just creating a dull spot...since it’s my tree, I have a right to do that, don’t I?