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To: Phlyer
Roe v. Wade is a rejection of our founding principles, the right to life itself.

The Framers and the states that submitted amendments knew that our rights were not the leftovers of powers granted to the federal government, so I don't see conflict between the 9th and 10th. As for the 14th, I have spent was too much time trying to figure out what Scotus has done to it. From what little I understand, some of the Constitution applies to the states, and some does not. An example is the 2nd, which after 160 years or since ratification of the 14th, Scotus doesn't know what we know, that self protection via arms is a Natural Right.

11 posted on 11/24/2009 3:25:02 PM PST by Jacquerie (It is only in the context of Natural Law that the Declaration & Constitution form a coherent whole.)
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To: Jacquerie
The issue is not whether we have other rights. The issue, for me, is whether the federal government has any authority to enforce or constrain those rights. I agree that the right to defend oneself is a 'natural right,' but in he absence of the 2nd Amendment, it wouldn't be the federal government's job (or authority) to enforce it.

Your point about SCOTUS confusing things is, of course, correct. I think you can make a direct linkage from the 17th Amendment in 1913 to the problems we face today. The 17th Amendment changed the Senators from representatives of the States into representatives of the people (therefore redundant with the House of Representatives, with the positions dependent not on sustaining the States in their authority but on concentrating power in Washington). A generation later Roosevelt was trying to pack the Supreme Court with those who didn't care what the Constitution actually said - and then didn't have to because the federal-government-empowered Senate approved enough Justices to get what he wanted anyway. And a generation later we had LBJ and the beginning of state socialism. And a generation later we have a blatant socialist as president. As a result of that degradation, even Robert Bork, at his confirmation hearings, said he thought the 14th Amendment made the 10th Amendment moot. That's like saying that if we have a law that says you have to drive on the right side of the road, that makes speed limits moot.

As Reagan said, liberty is always only a generation away from being lost. In our case, it's been lost in stages rather than all at once, but we now face exactly the kind of state socialism that has caused more human misery than any other human invention.
21 posted on 11/25/2009 7:23:15 AM PST by Phlyer
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