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To: Godzilla
Watching the frantic gyrations that you and the rest of crew perform in an effort to ensure the literal inerrancy of the bible is instructive to watch. Your Christian faith is incredibly weak without the firmament that is your belief in the inerrancy of scripture. Without that assurance, your Christian faith is dead.

The "science" that you and the other Bill Nye wannabes on this thread have presented is, well, interesting. It's also unnecessary, as my argument was not a scientific one. I merely said that interpretation was required to understand the value of pi that derives from the bible. You guys are making arguments ranging from number of decimal places and significant digits to ancient Hebrew numerology.

And, of course, how can I forget post 683 in which God's Scientist Emeritus proudly dismisses my point because the value of pi is different on the sun!

So, please, talk amongst yourselves and reassert your belief in the literal truth of each word of the bible. As for me, I'm comfortable knowing that my Christian God gave me a brain to not only understand His word, but also to ascertain his methods of creation.

I would now like to leave a disclaimer for others who may be reading this thread (actually, I have received a number of private messages indicating that this thread is being watched elsewhere, and I wouldn't want them to get the wrong impression):

To All To Whom These Presents Shall Come--Greetings

Please do not judge the intelligence or reasoning capability of all Christians from the content of this thread. We are not all this stupid.

Oh, one more thing--you're the only addressee on this post. I would expect you to inform he others.

1,004 posted on 11/29/2009 11:13:25 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.; Godzilla; metmom; Tennessee Nana; ejonesie22; Elsie; colorcountry; reaganaut
I would now like to leave a disclaimer for others who may be reading this thread (actually, I have received a number of private messages indicating that this thread is being watched elsewhere, and I wouldn't want them to get the wrong impression)

Ooohhhhh! How scary! Secret messages and threats that we are being WATCHED!

Next thing you know, someone will be threatening Jim that they will end their donations to FR because of us....Oh wait!

scary lolcat

"We're watching you!"

1,007 posted on 11/29/2009 11:47:33 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (The House health care bill that is dropping contains the word “shall” 3,425 times...)
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To: Buck W.
I would now like to leave a disclaimer for others who may be reading this thread (actually, I have received a number of private messages indicating that this thread is being watched elsewhere, and I wouldn't want them to get the wrong impression):

Translation:

Mom has been looking over my shoulder and is now threatening to shut off my Internet because I have been such a little Jack Ass.

Don't worry Buckie, we understand your post is all allegory...

1,008 posted on 11/29/2009 12:16:08 PM PST by ejonesie22
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To: Buck W.
Oh, I forgot:

To All To Whom These Presents Shall Come--Greetings

Please let it be known that not all Christians, (especially one who have to keep bragging over and over and over and over that they are to try and convince us) are arrogant asses...

1,009 posted on 11/29/2009 12:19:40 PM PST by ejonesie22
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To: Buck W.; Godzilla

Your frantic gyrations to bolster your ego by condemning others as having *weak faith* for not believing as you do, are also instructive to watch.

You’ve revealed more to the world about what you are about than you have a clue.

Your constant misrepresentation of the Bible and conflating the concepts of inerrancy and word for word literal reading of the Bible without regard to style, reveal what you’re about, and it’s not about intellectual honesty. It’s not about any kind of honesty.

It’s about presenting yourself as better than everyone else and right all the time. It’s an ego boost made to bolster insecurities about what YOU believe. Nobody is going to come along and tell you that you’re right just to make you feel better. Your constant need for approval is not going to be met here where people are going to tell you the truth. If you want to hear that you’re right so that you can convince yourself that you are in good standing with God, you’ll have to go somewhere else.

It is not a sign of weak faith to believe that God meant what He said when He inspired the Bible. It’s not weak faith to believe that it’s inerrant.

It’s a sign of weak faith when you cannot accept that God meant what He said and you have to twist, manipulate, and excuse what He said because it conflicts with your preferred, predetermined views of what you think the world should be like. It’s a sign of weak faith to make God git you instead of you fitting God.

It’s a sign of a control freak who has to make everything fit his ideology and demand approval for it. And bragging up on yourself impresses no one and convinces no one.


1,014 posted on 11/29/2009 12:32:54 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Buck W.; metmom; Elsie; ejonesie22; Tennessee Nana
Watching the frantic gyrations that you and the rest of crew perform in an effort to ensure the literal inerrancy of the bible is instructive to watch. Your Christian faith is incredibly weak without the firmament that is your belief in the inerrancy of scripture. Without that assurance, your Christian faith is dead.

My 'gyrations' LOL, lets just review what you've brought to the table

1. The bible says pi=3
- Lie #1, the bible does not address pi anywhere, the word is not found in Hebrew
- Lie #2, the bible does not claim in 1 Kings that pi=3, the word "3" is not found anywhere in the passage.

2. The answer to this lie requires 'interpretation'.
- Lie #3, your force you own flawed 'interpretation' upon a scripture passage that to say it is a math passage. The fact is that anyone with half a brain readily understands what the passage is describing except you.

3. Don't confuse you with the facts because your mind is made up based upon fallacy.

4. You have not brought a single expansion of the Hebrew used, nor the full description of the passage. You pedantic protestations that your explanation for the passage is the only one valid, yet provide no support for your position.

The fact is YOU are the one gyrating wildly, guess that is what happens when you reach the end of your rope.

My faith is in more than this one passage and your mangled misrepresentation of it. You have yet to tell us upon what basis you consider yourself to be a Christian (crickets)

I merely said that interpretation was required to understand the value of pi that derives from the bible.

No, please go back to your earlier posts and correct your misrepresentation of your argument. You can't even prove the measurements were taken at equivalent locations on the basin, therefore your assertions are baseless.

You guys are making arguments ranging from number of decimal places and significant digits to ancient Hebrew numerology.

Which are valid points considering your absurd assertions. AFA ancient Hebrew numerology - are you asserting that Hebrew at that era could account for decimal places?? (crickets). No, each and every argument has exposed your foolish claims on multiple levels.

As for me, I'm comfortable knowing that my Christian God gave me a brain to not only understand His word, but also to ascertain his methods of creation.

And if ignorance is bliss, you must be pretty blissful considering your inability to handle even a simple portion of the scripture.

Please do not judge the intelligence or reasoning capability of all Christians from the content of this thread. We are not all this stupid.

I know we aren't, so what's your problem?

Oh, one more thing--you're the only addressee on this post. I would expect you to inform he others.

Not surprising you are afraid to address others, generally considered poor form in FR, but since it appears that it distresses you so much, I was going to do it anyway.

1,020 posted on 11/29/2009 12:49:39 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Buck W.
I would now like to leave a disclaimer for others who may be reading this thread (actually, I have received a number of private messages indicating that this thread is being watched elsewhere, and I wouldn't want them to get the wrong impression):

Whats the matter buckey boy? Either they think you are screwing it up or they are holding your feet to the fire to toe the skeptic party line or both.

1,028 posted on 11/29/2009 1:19:02 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Buck W.
I merely said that interpretation was required to understand the value of pi that derives from the bible.

No; Buck; you did not.

You stated that "The bible SAYS it's 3." in a previous post.

Do you not remember?

1,049 posted on 11/29/2009 2:05:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Buck W.; Godzilla; Elsie; ejonesie22; greyfoxx39

Please do not judge the intelligence or reasoning capability of all Christians from the content of this thread. We are not all this stupid.

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I agree completely with your statement. Not all Christians are as stupid as you.


1,053 posted on 11/29/2009 2:09:12 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Buck W.; Godzilla; Elsie; greyfoxx39; metmom

I would now like to leave a disclaimer for others who may be reading this thread (actually, I have received a number of private messages indicating that this thread is being watched elsewhere, and I wouldn’t want them to get the wrong impression):

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ROFL. In case you mean to imply “big brother” is watching...

HEY BIG BROTHER! COME AND GET ME! HERE I AM! ARREST ME FOR THINKING THE BIBLE IS INERRANT!

and for good measure:

HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG, ABNORMAL AND AN ABOMINATION IN THE SIGHT OF GOD!

(uh oh, I think I hear a knock at the door)


1,065 posted on 11/29/2009 2:26:49 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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