Posted on 11/24/2009 1:46:39 PM PST by Steelfish
“Im not here to answer your every personal inquiry...”
Yet you’ve taken four posts to tell me that. You could have answered the question in one. It’s not a “gotcha” of any kind—I’m merely asking for a clarification of your position. To repeat—you seem to imply that LDS is a cult. Do you personally believe that to be true? I’ll give you my answer: I don’t.
Please reciprocate.
The question is really what example are we Christians giving people of other faiths? If we lived as the first Christians did, we would be on fire with the love of Christ. Our witness would inspire and educate. Our lives would instruct.
One does not convert through criticism; but through example and eloquence.
I think a serious theological and scholarly inquiry into the question is “Mormonisn Christian”? should not be considered a criticism of individual spiritual lives Mormons per se. Questioning their own failure to make this critical inquiry is fair game. Faith without reason is legend and reason without faith confines the intellect to only what is cognitive. Mormonism comes close to the former.
The cult thing seems to bother you a lot, tell us about it.
You’re deflecting. You brought it up, not me. If you’re uncomfortable with your own position, then you shouldn’t raise the issue.
No you seem to be trying to avoid the primary discussion of whether Mormonism is Christian by wanting to get personal in interrogation of posters. I’m not here to get into a personal theological discussion but to point out what the larger view is.
Here is something the Greek Orthodox say about cults.
The prevailing doctrine of past and present cults is the gnostic or secret knowledge to attain salvation or perfection that they alone possess. This is evident in early Gnosticism as well as in the nineteenth-century cults such as Mormonism, Christian Science, Jehovahs Witnesses, spiritualism, theosophy, and many more. Several of these cults offer special welfare services to promote good will and enable them to further their propaganda. Examples of such activities include the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, The Christian Science Monitor, and the Battle Creek Sanitarium of the Seventh Day Adventists. [4] Through these philanthropic activities, they appear to be harmless to people in order to promote their religious propaganda.
You have plenty of capacity and desire to post the opinions of others, but not your own.
I’m posting a lot of information about the Christian portion and even the cult question, spit out whatever it is that you want to share about cults and quit the time wasting.
Say it man, say it, throw it out there.
I’ve said what I have to say—please reread my posts if you need a refresher. Your posts are ambiguous, though, and I’m seeking clarification. If you don’t want to answer the question, fine. I’m sure I’d be ashamed of the position that I think you hold as well.
There is nothing ambiguous about my posts, when I quote the Greek Orthodox, it is a direct quote, when I quote the Catholic site it is a direct quote.
That post on the Catholic position on Mormon Baptism is taken directly from the Vatican site.
All of your posts seem to be personal, mocking, short, meaningless and irrelevant, frankly you have added zero to this thread other than a kind of troll like interference.
I’m asking for YOUR position, not those of other churches. You’re implying that LDS is a cult, but you won’t state your position directly.
What is YOUR position? Is LDS a cult?
You seem to want to do anything but get on the topic, is Mormonism Christian? Evidently not, if any Catholics here think they are, then this is what the church says. This is from Catholic Answers:
I read this in First Things when it first came out.
Yes, an excellent article. Fr. Neuhaus represented SENSIBLE ecumenicism. Namely, respect other religions, try to work with them, but don’t give up your beliefs in a vain effort to find a least common denominator.
As he says, Christians can certainly work with Mormons, and there is a lot about which we can agree. But there are also basic, fundamental matters of faith about which we disagree, and it’s as well to recognize that.
Yes, I read it too. Fortunately, I had copied it for reference.
This entire show is of your creation. You implied that LDS was a cult. I asked for clarification, and you posted the opinions of other churches on the subject. Why won’t you tell us YOUR position? Is LDS a cult?
Accusations of “troll like distractions” are the refuge of a loser. Will you regain your reputation and shed the image of a loser?
Will you answer the question?
The Mormons have a system that serves themselves very well, although they have a low military enlistment rate, during the draft they also could give out their own deferments.
Mitt Romney himself, son of the prominent Mormon Governor and anti-war Republican Presidential candidate George Romney, was himself enabled by his church to work for his church in France rather than serve the United States as a soldier, of course no Romney man has ever served the United States as a soldier in the entire history of our nation but they have served the Joseph Smith church since they arrived here for that purpose about 20 years before the Civil War.
How’s that Scozzawhatever/Romney tagline these days?
Just curious, did you know what a Democrat she is? Do you STILL support Mitt Healthcare?
I trust you’ve seen the light. It appears you’ve got the right perspective on Mormonism anyway.
Hope you don’t mind a little good natured ribbing.
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LOL, Hey, if I can't get Scozzafava/Romney into office to save our great nation then I might just have to kill myself.
Mitt Romney: "I'm not a partisan politician. My hope is that, after this election, it will be the moderates of both parties who will control the Senate, not the Jesse Helmses."
There are great Christians in our family too. We have Methodists and Baptists, a few Catholics. We generally get along just fine. I am sure that if push came to shove the Baptists would not think the Catholics are on the right track either.
I have had great experiences with the Protestants and the Catholics.. The born agains would not let my daughter into their school, but the Catholics were very accepting. Every group has it’s doctrine. I have never had the abuse from the family members. They are pretty good sports about the LDS doctrinal differences. If you like abuse, freerepublic can dish it out.
I still like coming here for the politics. We have so many things in common with the posters here.
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