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1 posted on 11/18/2009 7:40:29 PM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D

If only this could really have some teeth and get these two frauds and crooks..and all the rest as well.


2 posted on 11/18/2009 7:46:28 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: Man50D

Oh please.

This is the kind of stuff that makes us look like a bunch of weirdos.


3 posted on 11/18/2009 7:48:06 PM PST by Nik Naym (I remember when the United States was a free country. I feel old.)
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To: Man50D; freekitty; justiceseeker93; celtic gal; brushcop; jesseam; TXRed; Clintonfatigued; ...

Let there be justice!


4 posted on 11/18/2009 7:49:49 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead (clean the sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: Man50D
on the AGJ website within the next few days

Now that would bring new meaning to Thanksgiving Day.
6 posted on 11/18/2009 7:51:37 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Man50D

Please. This kind of whackjobbery just makes the rest of at FR look like total nutcases.


12 posted on 11/18/2009 7:56:34 PM PST by Melas
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To: Man50D

What a joke. Like some kind of pathetic drumhead trial in a Kevin Costner apocalypse movie.


15 posted on 11/18/2009 7:58:40 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Man50D

Unfortunately, the defendant is mentally incompetent to stand trial.

Case dismissed.


16 posted on 11/18/2009 7:59:22 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Man50D

With The Red Queen, election fraud is likely only the tip of the iceberg, but I digress.


22 posted on 11/18/2009 8:14:53 PM PST by Califreak (Obama's Purple Reign must be stopped!)
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To: Man50D
Man50D,

All it takes is one judge who is a true patriot and loves his country. Obama’s paperwork is like a vampire. It can't stand the light of day shining on it.

25 posted on 11/18/2009 8:24:42 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Man50D

bfl


32 posted on 11/18/2009 8:38:38 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: LucyT

ping — maybe??


61 posted on 11/18/2009 9:32:18 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Man50D

November 6th, the day the Grand Jury charges were filed, is the same day that both Paul Tsukiyama, Director of the Office of Information Practices in Hawaii resigned (his office oversees the public complaints regarding the Hawaii Dept of Health) and also Cassandra Butts, Harvard classmate of Obama, resigned from her post under Greg Craig.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2389594/posts


70 posted on 11/18/2009 9:42:04 PM PST by crosstimbers
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To: Man50D

Charge Nancy 'Nazi' Pelosi for commission of the felonies of Conspiracy and Fraud!!!


93 posted on 11/19/2009 1:51:38 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Man50D

What a waste of FReeper Bandwidth.....tsk tsk


100 posted on 11/19/2009 2:31:57 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Man50D

Wow !!!!


112 posted on 11/19/2009 5:28:25 AM PST by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: Man50D; All
"The Grand Jury"

The Grand Jury is also known as the people’s panel. Every citizen should know the history and purpose of the grand jury in order to properly protect their fellow man from prosecutorial abuse. When citizens are unaware of their power they cannot exercise that power to uphold justice.
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The grand jury was originally a body of twelve, and later twenty-three men that served as accusers who presented indictments at the request of not only the prosecutor of the king, but also at the request of individual citizens. In 1681 the grand jury rule of secrecy was adopted. This allowed the grand jury to meet in secret, especially out of the sight of the king’s prosecutors who might interfere. This secrecy provided the grand jury great power as an independent body with oversight over the government.
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The grand jury served the public in two ways. First, it limited the power of government to prosecute citizens by permitting the grand jury to vote for or against an indictment and second, it had the power to make a presentment. A presentment was a public report of the grand jury’s activity. Through a presentment, the grand jury could make criminal activity known to the public, including criminal conduct committed by government officials, judges, or prosecutors
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It is significant that the grand jury is not part of any of the three branches of the U.S. government—it is a pre-constitutional institution. Washington attorney John H. Clarke wrote in a motion to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, “Although today the grand jury is more of a prosecutor’s panel, it is still a pre-constitutional institution, and is still a people’s panel, not captive or relegated by the constitution to a position within any branches… and it still serves as a vehicle for effective citizen participation in government.”
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Citizens often mistakenly believe that because the grand jury meets at the courthouse it is under the judiciary or because the grand jury meets with a prosecutor it is under the executive branch. It is actually an independent institution adopted by the founders to protect the individual from prosecutorial misconduct.
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From 1789 when the Bill of Rights was ratified, until the codification of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure in 1946, the grand jury was not regulated by statute.

All three branches of government shared a common interest in limiting the power of the grand jury—the pre-constitutional institution unregulated by any branch.

Gradually, the executive branch began to limit the power of the grand jury..."

http://www.dcdave.com/article5/070119.htm

A related book on the subject:

The people's panel: the Grand Jury in the United States, 1634-1941 By Richard D. Younger

126 posted on 11/19/2009 12:48:40 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Man50D
A Response in the form of an “Order” has been issued by Judge Todd Campbell and received by American Grand Jury this week. American Grand Jury will answer the response in the form of a Motion. The American Grand Jury Motion and a copy of the Court’s Order will be published on the AGJ website within the next few days.

They have not posted the text of the judge's Order. Does anyone doubt that it was a direction to the Clerk not to file anything from this make-believe grand jury?

142 posted on 11/19/2009 4:05:27 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Man50D

On November 19th US District Judge Todd Campbell denied the American Grand Jury’s presentments.

11/06/2009 1 ORDER: The Court is in receipt of certain documents identified as “Grand Jury Presentments” filed by Mack H. Ellis. The documents purport to represent grand jury presentments for fraud, treason and election fraud against President Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic National Convention. Leave to file this presentment is DENIED. Further, though the papers presented to the Clerk of Court shall not be filed, they shall be assigned a miscellaneous number along with this Order for the Court’s record.. Signed by Chief Judge Todd J. Campbell on 11/6/09. (# 1 Attachment-Affidavit of Process-Serve and # 2 Attachment-Grand Jury Presentments)(as) (copy mailed to Mack Ellis) Modified on 11/6/2009 (af). (Entered: 11/06/2009)

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
MIDDLE DISTRICT OF TENNESSEE
NASHVILLE DIVISION
11/19/09

IN RE: AMERICAN GRAND JURY a/k/a SUPER GRAND JURY II

JUDGE CAMPBELL

ORDER

The Court is in receipt of certain documents identified as “Grand Jury Presentments,” filed by Mack H. Ellis. The documents purport to represent grand jury presentments for fraud, treason and election fraud against President Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic National Convention.

The Fifth Amendment provides that “no person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury….” U.S. Const. Amend. V. Although presentments are constitutionally permitted, there is no authority under the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure or in the statutes of the United States for this Court to accept one. United States v. Briggs, 514 F.2d 794, 803 n.14 (5th Cir. 1975); Gaither v. United States, 413 F.2d 1061, 1065 n.1 (D.C. Cir. 1969); see also United States v. Cox, 342 F.2d 167, 184 (5th Cir. 1965) (Brown, J., concurring).

Furthermore, grand juries are convened by the court for the district in which they sit. See Fed. R. Crim. P. 6(a)(1); In re Grand Jury, 490 F.3d 978, 986 (D.C. Cir. 2007) (“the district court itself convenes and supervises the grand jury proceedings.”). Grand jurors are also to be selected at random from a fair cross section of the district in which they are convened. 28 U.S.C. § 1861.

The individuals who have made this presentment were not convened by this Court to sit as a grand jury nor have they been selected at random from a fair cross section of this district. In addition, the individuals who have made this presentment did not meet under the supervision of any district court and, in fact, convened online rather than in person. Any self-styled indictment or presentment issued by such a group has no force under the Constitution or laws of the United States.

As such, leave to file this presentment is hereby DENIED. Further, though the papers presented to the Clerk of Court shall not be filed, they shall be assigned a miscellaneous number along with this Order for the Court’s record.

IT IS SO ORDERED.

TODD J. CAMPBELL

UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE


161 posted on 11/20/2009 1:06:29 AM PST by jamese777
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To: Man50D

obumpa


164 posted on 11/20/2009 9:58:52 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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