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Is there any FReeper Math whizzes that can help us?

Posted on 11/16/2009 5:57:35 PM PST by netmilsmom

Okay, we have tons of algebra programs that can work with numbers but do not have any help with Story problems.

Can anyone tell us the formula for solving this, step by step.

Nine pounds of Sweet Potatoes cost the same as Six pounds of Apples. One pound of Sweet Potatoes cost twice as much as one pound of Onions. While a pound of Apples costs 24 cents more than a pound of Onions.

(we can't solve it with NO integers)

Can anyone tell us how to do this?


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To: Pikachu_Dad

Uh.... no. Sorry.


81 posted on 11/16/2009 6:28:47 PM PST by alancarp (Calling all states: Reduce the cost of doing business and jobs will flock to your doors.)
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To: alancarp

LOL.


82 posted on 11/16/2009 6:29:08 PM PST by votemout
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To: netmilsmom

My wife grew up in Milford.

I would have assumed all your math problems would have been in caliber.

If you have 1500 rounds for your .45 and 500 rounds for your 30-06, how many drug dealers can you kill and still have enough ammo for home protection? Assume two shots per kill and an average distance of 200 feet. Factor for wind and taxation. Show all work.

Explain how your answer would be different at night.


83 posted on 11/16/2009 6:29:54 PM PST by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: netmilsmom

It’s a simple set of simultaneous linear equations. It’s really high school math. You can solve it by Gaussian elimination without much problem, but it so simple that that isn’t necessary.

Let’s solve it by hand. You have three equations and three unknows. Let’s call the price per pound of sweet potatoes Xsw, the price per pound of apples Xa and the price per pound of onions, Xo. Let’s rephrase your problem algebraically:

1.) Nine pounds of Sweet Potatoes cost the same as Six pounds of Apples.

9 * Xsw = 6 * Xa

simplifying:

Xsw = 2 * Xa / 3

Xa = 3 * Xsw /2

2.) One pound of Sweet Potatoes cost twice as much as one pound of Onions.

Xsw = 2 * Xo

Xo = Xsw/2

3.) While a pound of Apples costs 24 cents more than a pound of Onions.

Xa = Xo + 0.24

We previously solved for the price of apples and onions in terms of sweet potatoes so plug those values into equation 3. :

3 * Xsw / 2 = Xsw/2 + 0.24

Subtract Xsw/2 from both sides

3 * Xsw /2 - Xsw/2 = 0.24

Xsw = 0.24

Substitute back into equation 1 and 2 to get

Xa = 3 * Xsw /2 = 0.36

Xo = Xsw/2 = 0.12

You can substitute back into the original problem to verify that all constraints are met.

Let me know where you shop, btw.


84 posted on 11/16/2009 6:30:14 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Only in America does being convicted of a capital crime increase your life expectancy.)
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To: netmilsmom

85 posted on 11/16/2009 6:31:02 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Will Algore give me carbon credits for using treehuggers as home heating fuel? ~~ Galt/Reardon 2012)
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To: netmilsmom

put decimal points onto each number and that will avoid the constraint about not using integers.


86 posted on 11/16/2009 6:31:17 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: martin_fierro

OMG that is hilarious!


87 posted on 11/16/2009 6:33:46 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: netmilsmom

Let’s use some fake numbers to see.

Let’s pretend that one pound of onions costs $1. What will one pound of sweet potatoes cost? Twice as much, or $2. Now pretend that instead of the $ you write O, for onion. Now you get O costs 1O, and S costs 2O.

Does that make more sense that way?


88 posted on 11/16/2009 6:33:51 PM PST by JenB
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To: Pikachu_Dad

OOPS

Eventually you will get to..

So apples cost $0.36/lb; sweet potatoes cost $0.24/lb and Onions cost $0.12/lb.

I set the Sweet Potato price to .24 more than the Onions...


89 posted on 11/16/2009 6:33:58 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad
So apples cost $0.72/lb; sweet potatoes cost $0.48/lb and Onions cost $0.24/lb.

Uhhmmm.... apples are .24 more than onions, not .48 more. Get Ash out of bed and have him show you again.

90 posted on 11/16/2009 6:34:35 PM PST by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: mamelukesabre
define variables

SP=sweet potatoes
O=onions
A=apples

Looks like it's been solved, but I was leaning toward:

= SOAP

91 posted on 11/16/2009 6:34:37 PM PST by RJL
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92 posted on 11/16/2009 6:35:12 PM PST by alancarp (Calling all states: Reduce the cost of doing business and jobs will flock to your doors.)
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To: martin_fierro

93 posted on 11/16/2009 6:36:38 PM PST by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: Bryanw92

“(N) Onions = $0.12/lb
(A) Apples = $0.36/lb
(P) Potatoes = $0.24/lb”

Look at those prices. Is this problem from the 1960s? No wonder it is confusing to a kid.


94 posted on 11/16/2009 6:36:46 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: netmilsmom

95 posted on 11/16/2009 6:37:37 PM PST by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: netmilsmom

My advice? Send the kid to school tomorrow and challenge the teacher to solve it using the technique she taught it with.

Kids should never have homework that hasn’t been reviewed in class

....my opinion


96 posted on 11/16/2009 6:39:53 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: JenB

No, actually it still doesn’t.

I’m just thick but is something is twice something else then the value should be two times that.

So I can’t get past
2s = o

If s is twice the cost of o.

I’m just math dumb.


97 posted on 11/16/2009 6:42:05 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom
Looking for a math teacher??? At your service!

Nine pounds of Sweet Potatoes cost the same as Six pounds of Apples.

So 9P = 6A (where the variables are, hopefully, obvious)

One pound of Sweet Potatoes cost twice as much as one pound of Onions.

P = 2N (never use "O" as a variable).

While a pound of Apples costs 24 cents more than a pound of Onions.

A = N + 24

Okay, so I'm assuming that you need to figure all three out?

Eliminate P first, giving you only A and N to work with.
P = 2N and 9P = 6A so, 9(2N) = 6A or 18N = 6A

But we know that A is N + 24, so substitute:

18N = 6(N + 24) = 6N + 144

From there, it's a two-step solution to find N, plug it into the other equations and you get A and P.

Hope this helps -- assuming someone else didn't already give you the answer already.

98 posted on 11/16/2009 6:42:26 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

We homeschool.

We are all challenged at this point.


99 posted on 11/16/2009 6:42:48 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom
Nine pounds of Sweet Potatoes cost the same as Six pounds of Apples.

I feel a song coming on ...

100 posted on 11/16/2009 6:43:45 PM PST by dr_lew
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