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A Novel Idea. Register non-gun owners
resistnet ^ | 10/21/2009 | wayne Crook

Posted on 11/13/2009 8:41:12 AM PST by mikelets456

Subject: A Novel Idea

Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont 's own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere.

Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners" and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun

Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals

Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise."

Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says

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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; falsestory; nongun; nottrue; owners; register; satire; urbanlegend
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1 posted on 11/13/2009 8:41:16 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: mikelets456

People that need the police the most should pay the most.


2 posted on 11/13/2009 8:44:08 AM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: mikelets456

Whoa!


3 posted on 11/13/2009 8:44:53 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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4 posted on 11/13/2009 8:46:06 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: mikelets456

Works for me.


5 posted on 11/13/2009 8:46:47 AM PST by SAMWolf (Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed. Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love)
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To: mikelets456

Sounds like the same logic that Nancypants is using to justify the forced purchase of health care.


6 posted on 11/13/2009 8:48:26 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Joe Wilson speaks for me.)
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To: mikelets456

And a website with maps to everyone who doesn’t carry a gun.....

If we are wanting to already make life safer for the criminals then why not take it tot he next logical step....


7 posted on 11/13/2009 8:50:50 AM PST by GraceG
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I’m po. Can I get a firearm foodstamp?


8 posted on 11/13/2009 8:51:18 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: mikelets456

Clever. Constitutionally unjustifiable (the 2nd amendment clearly does not mandate gun ownership; having the right does not mandate exercising the right) — but clever nonetheless.

SnakeDoc


9 posted on 11/13/2009 8:52:23 AM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: Yo-Yo
Except in this case the state constitution actually says something about the subject:

Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent."

Nanzi Pelosi is making her justification out of whole cloth.

10 posted on 11/13/2009 8:52:23 AM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Check the cited language in the state constitution. This couldn’t be applied nationwide, but actually appears justified for Vermont.


11 posted on 11/13/2009 8:54:34 AM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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“I’m po. Can I get a firearm foodstamp?”

Nope, you do not need a weapon to rob tax payers via welfare.

12 posted on 11/13/2009 8:55:57 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: MortMan

But State constitutions cannot run afoul of the US Constitution.

It would make for an interesting case.


13 posted on 11/13/2009 8:56:09 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Joe Wilson speaks for me.)
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To: mountainlion

Why not? It’s the same logic that Pelosi is using to pass the healthcare sham. She says people who don’t have healthcare increase the costs for those who do have it, so everyone must be forced to get it.

So, those who don’t have guns increase the costs (crime, no-defense death, etc.) for those who do own guns. Everyone should be forced to have a gun! I’m sure they’d like that argument.


14 posted on 11/13/2009 9:00:28 AM PST by Skenderbej (People need to learn that no muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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To: walford

I could use a $500 or $1000 firearm voucher too!


15 posted on 11/13/2009 9:02:09 AM PST by Skenderbej (People need to learn that no muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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To: mikelets456

Brilliant!


16 posted on 11/13/2009 9:02:42 AM PST by LibWhacker (America awake!)
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To: Yo-Yo

State Constitutions cannot CONTRADICT the federal constitution — i.e they cannot remove rights granted by the feds. State Constitutions are permitted to add rights and responsibilities not addressed by the feds.

SnakeDoc


17 posted on 11/13/2009 9:06:28 AM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: SnakeDoctor
While you are correct about the US Constitution, consider the following from the Vermont Constitution:

Article 9th. Citizens' rights and duties in the state; bearing arms; taxation

That every member of society hath a right to be protected in the enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and therefore is bound to contribute the member's proportion towards the expense of that protection, and yield personal service, when necessary, or an equivalent thereto , but no part of any person's property can be justly taken, or applied to public uses, without the person's own consent, or that of the Representative Body, nor can any person who is conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms, be justly compelled thereto, if such person will pay such equivalent; nor are the people bound by any law but such as they have in like manner assented to, for their common good: and previous to any law being made to raise a tax, the purpose for which it is to be raised ought to appear evident to the Legislature to be of more service to community than the money would be if not collected.

18 posted on 11/13/2009 9:07:30 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Yo-Yo

The Vermont state constitution doesn’t run afoul of the U.S. Constitution.

The right to keep and bear arms is not abridged in the Vermont constitution.

It is the “privelege” of NOT keeping and bearing arms that is subject to additional tax.

It’s kind of elegant, IMO.


19 posted on 11/13/2009 9:14:22 AM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: walford
"Can I get a firearm foodstamp?"

LOL I am a firm believer in Ammo Stamps and have previously posted regarding same.

20 posted on 11/13/2009 9:15:33 AM PST by Paladin2
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