[lookout88]

Ok, what is a good inexpensive AR? what about ammo for it?

[smokingfrog]

I don’t think there is such a thing as an inexpensive AR.
This DPMS is one of the lower priced ones I’ve seen.

http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=5295

Ammo doesn’t seem to be that much of a problem right now, but in most cases is about 20 to 30 percent higher than a year ago.

You can get a cheaper Saiga .223 that will shoot less expensive steel case ammo.

[hiredhand]

We stopped by our local yesterday and my buddy there showed me what he called an "entry level" DPMS AR-15 carbine. It was ALL flat topped (NO sights!), and had a collapsible stock, but no forward assist. The retail on it was "about" $800 and some change. You can probably find a better deal on it somewhere else.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, we looked at Para's new folder, which had a "real" gas system and a trigger that had to be the lightest AR-15 trigger we've ever tried on a factory rifle!

But MHO (my humble opinion) is to stay away from inexpensive ARs. I know we're all on a budget (including ME!), but two individuals did me a huge favor by steering me away from cheap ARs and advising me to stay with Armalite, DPMS, and Bushmaster. I'm glad we simply saved and bought good equipment.

[50cal Smokepole]

I have a Stag Arms. Not the most expensive out there, but dang, no complaints about quality. Just put an E.R. Shaw custom varmint upper on the lower. I swapped the Stag carrier ass’y and no probs. It shoots great. As far as ammo goes, I’ve shot about 500 rnds of Century M193, and it’s been very consitant. I can bang a gong @ 300m all day long with the stuff. You can get it now for about .35/rnd.
[two cents]

[Eska]

I have a colt preban A2 I bought in 80’s for 400 bucks. Picked up a stagg arms 15 this year, pretty nice but not a colt either; functionaly about the same.

Got a Mark V 30-378 couple weeks back; now that is a sweet caliber for hunting.