Okay, lawyers: Who becomes president if Barack Obama or whatever his real name is, is found to be a usurper? Not Joseph Biden? He is complicit, as is Nancy Pelosi. Does Mr. McCain? Senator Byrd? WHO?!!
That question is why I cannot see the SC going with the Vattel definition no matter how convincing the evidence for it. Of course, that assumes it ever gets to them and I’m sure they will be content with district and/or appellate courts finding a lack of standing.
If this guy John has the what he says he does, it’s goodbye Obama.
If I remember correctly, after the speaker of the house, the executive authority would move on to Senator Byrd, then to serving members of the cabinet. The first would be Secretary of State, Hillary Rotten Clinton. The next would be Sec of Treasury, Sec of Defense, the Attorney General, Sec of Interior, Sec of Agriculture, Sec of Commerce, Sec of Labor, Sec of Health and Human Services, Sec of Urban Development, Sec of Transportation, Sec of Energy, Sec of Education, Sec of Veterans Affairs, Sec of Homeland Security and then to some guy in a bar named “Phil”.
...ok, OK. Sarah PALIN!
Cheers!
In my opinion, we are FROZEN in the time between the certification of electoral college votes by Congress and the "qualification" to Congress by the "President elect". This, unless there in fact has been a legitimate "qualification" which we the people have not been shown. If there has been no qualification to Congress, we do not have a legal President and the Congress would be commanded by the Constituion to follow the rules of Section three of the Twentieth amendment:
"3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
Whats quite interesting in this scenario is the fact that Congress would be admitting to the nation that THEY were complicit in allowing a usurper into the oval office by NOT following the instructions of section three when they were SUPPOSED to. Hang em all if this is the case.
ME! I am NBC and can prove it 10 ways to Sunday.
Plus I Love America, Christmas, Apple Pie, Coca Cola and Baseball.
I throw right hand and straight down the middle. It’s only 60 or so feet and then off to the hot dog stand.
Oh! No pants from Mom. She wouldn’t let me look like a dork anyway.
Joe Biden, like it or not. Per the 25th Amendment. If he is complicit in anything criminal then you'll need to impeach him and have him removed by the senate.
It has become a total mess that no normal individual could have foreseen!!!
Under the Constitution, it would be Biden. Sure, he'd likely have been complicit, but that's not an Art II section 1 disqualifier. It might be a high crime or misdomeaner under Art II section 4, and thus grounds for impeachment. But until that could be accomplished, Biden would be acting as President. By the time all that gets sorted out, we might be into the next Congress, and if it's majority Republican, then impeachement might follow. Before then however, Biden would have selected a new VP, and she'd likely be confirmed by the Senatate per amendment XXV section 2. Unlikely to be elected in her own right in 2012 however.