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To: Gabz

I can’t understand why business owners, themselves, can’t decide whether to forbid smoking.

We should let the customers decide which businesses they want to patronize - smoking or non-smoking.

I hate having to walk through crowds of smokers who are loitering on sidewalks in front of public establishments.

Issuing summonses for ashtrays is especially Orwellian.


16 posted on 10/13/2009 12:29:15 PM PDT by syriacus (When will Obama tell me I MUST wear sunscreen to reduce my chances of developing melanoma?)
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To: syriacus

>>business owners, themselves

Heck, didn’t you hear the whining over the “level playing field” when at least here in MA, certain towns banned it while others didn’t, before the state ban kicked in....the same month our SC legalized gay marriage.

Certain symmetry there eh.


17 posted on 10/13/2009 12:31:52 PM PDT by swarthyguy (MEAT, the new tobacco. Your right to eat meat ends where my planetary ecosystem begins.)
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To: syriacus
I can’t understand why business owners, themselves, can’t decide whether to forbid smoking.

We should let the customers decide which businesses they want to patronize - smoking or non-smoking.

That's the way it should be, was for a very long time, and remains so in some normal places. But that is not good enough for the control crowd, and Washington, D.C. is the perfect example.

Prior to the enactment of the total ban there it was determined that more than 90% of eating establishments were already totally non smoking. Yet that wasn't enough. They will not be happy unless they have TOTAL control.

I hate having to walk through crowds of smokers who are loitering on sidewalks in front of public establishments.

I can understand that, but look at it from the point of view of the smokers, shouldn't they also have a place to go and socialize?

18 posted on 10/13/2009 12:39:27 PM PDT by Gabz (Not everyone can access online video or audio, please describe it)
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To: syriacus

>> hate having to walk through crowds of smokers who are loitering on sidewalks

Well, the bright side is that at least in the northern half of the USA, the winters make fewer people stand outside.

And if the new ordnances being bantered about go through, they’ll have a smokfrei zone some arbitrary distance around and from the entrance to each establishment.


19 posted on 10/13/2009 12:42:29 PM PDT by swarthyguy (MEAT, the new tobacco. Your right to eat meat ends where my planetary ecosystem begins.)
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