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Orly Transcript from July 13 hearing
Defend Our Freedoms Foundation
| 10/6/2009
| Orly Taitz
Posted on 10/06/2009 9:59:10 AM PDT by Elderberry
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Orly references Yesterday with what the Judge said back on July 13
To: Elderberry
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:04:21 AM PDT
by
Dryman
("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
To: Elderberry
I know. Paragraphs are our friend.
I should have fixed that before I posted.
To: Elderberry
The Honorable David O. Carter
U.S. District Court
411 W. Fourth St.
Santa Ana, CA 92701
714-338-4750
Polite, supportive, pithy ... do the right thing. If we lose the court, we have no redress as citizens from harms of government. That signifies the end of our civilized republic.
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:14:39 AM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: Elderberry
"Then there is no system of justice for the citizens of this country."
I am open minded on this issue, leaning towards 'the birthers do have a case.' However it is quite surprising to me, a non legal person, how every case is dismissed out of hand on a legal technicality. No ruling is ever made on the merits.
The 180 degree about face by this judge just confirms my suspicion that the fix is in and this contention is doomed to fail. Every branch of government has been compromised, and the legal branch must have a gun to its head:
Never a ruling
Never an opinion
Never Discovery
Every case cut off at the pass. But rest easy, we are a Nation of Laws. /sarc
To: Elderberry; Calpernia
I thought Orly and Defend Our Freedoms Foundation parted company with each other a while back?
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:30:24 AM PDT
by
mnehring
To: mnehring
That’s what I thought too, but that was what was on the top of her Web page.
To: so_real
Am I naive here, or would I think to call the judge—especially after he’s asked Orly to stop siccing callers after him—would be counterproductive?
To: Elderberry
by the usurper and his accomplishes (as you understand US attorneys didnt use this very language and definitions).
Accomplices?
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:33:19 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: Elderberry
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:33:42 AM PDT
by
mnehring
To: so_real
Polite, supportive, pithy ... And guaranteed, by Carter, to "go to voice mail and be deleted" per yesterday's hearing.
No, it's not "the right thing," even for Orly supporters. He told her to stop encouraging the calls.
From here on in, it's harassment, pure and simple.
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:33:52 AM PDT
by
browardchad
("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact" - Daniel P Moynihan)
To: mnehring
To: 9YearLurker; browardchad; so_real
My apologies. I was not aware of the Judge's request. So ... perhaps the fix *is* in. Perhaps Carter just wants to be left in solitude so he dismiss the case quietly without considering the precedent he sets by denying citizens' right to redress against government. Shame. Thought he had a pair. Civil War lurks around the corner, I fear.
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:44:26 AM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: Elderberry
On July 13 I was entitled to get a Default judgment against Obama and post default discovery, as I have properly sued Obama as an individual for a fraud that he committed as an individual before the election. No, as Carter pointed out yesterday, she never properly served Obama as an individual in THIS CASE. She piddled and diddled, and wound up dropping the documents off someplace in DC on January 20 at 3 pm -- after he'd been sworn in as POTUS -- and even then she didn't accomplish proper service, as evidenced seven months later, when Carter had to demand that she serve the U.S. Attorneys, at that moment, in the California courthouse, so that the case could at least go forward to this point.
So she whines and complains about the US Attorney, rather than a private attorney, representing Obama, when it's her own damn fault for not following the rules.
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:48:24 AM PDT
by
browardchad
("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact" - Daniel P Moynihan)
To: so_real
Pehaps the next Million and a Half man march will culminate in a Citizen’s Arrest.
To: Elderberry
Pehaps the next Million and a Half man march will culminate in a Citizens Arrest. Why do you think Obie skipped town last time? No balls to face the people.
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:53:08 AM PDT
by
rolling_stone
(no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
To: Elderberry
Hope it doesn't have to come to that ... but I'll meet you there as need be. Citizens *must* have the right to redress government ... period.
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posted on
10/06/2009 10:54:34 AM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: so_real
I hear you on the issue of redress and I well understand the frustration, but I’m not so certain the judiciary is the branch for that. Are they not supposed to rule on the facts and the law, rather than on public opinion?
To: rolling_stone
No Balls and he’s never had to stand up on his own two feet.
To: 9YearLurker
All three branches are equal and check each other's balance, to spin a phrase. Each defends the Constitution and thus protects the rights of citizens (supposedly). Therefore each is an avenue for redress -- remember the Five Boxes of Liberty. I don't believe there is a wrong branch to approach when citizens' rights are encroached upon.
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posted on
10/06/2009 11:19:07 AM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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