Posted on 10/04/2009 9:37:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Hmmmm...........perhaps to buy a full product means you have say, a linux machine and want to put Win 7 on it and have to buy the ‘full’ product whereas most machines are running an upgradeable product (XP or Vista) and only ‘need’ the upgrade? I believe MS would have loved to limit upgrade packages to Vista users but there weren’t enough of them so they ‘had’ to include XP users in the upgrade.
Allow me to tag a PS on here without putting another post on this thread.(yeah...I am THAT lazy)
PS: MS offers ‘advisor’ software that you download to have it look at your machine to see if it can run Win 7. Some online computer magazines warn that the advisor should catch MOST issues that could complicate or prevent you from running Win 7 but that after the ‘Vista capable’ debacle they caution you that installation issues could still crop up.
DEACTIVATE THE OLD OS CODE!!!! YOu mean upgrading to Win 7 is a one way ticket?! I would never be able to use XP again?
In the movie Hunt for Red October, Sean Connery says, I think, that Cortez burned his ships after they arrived in the new world to prevent his men from trying to return home....I guess that’s now the Win 7 option?????
Damn this is getting ugly...I don’t want any upgrade...
It was true with Vista as well.
I never knew that! One of the two machines I want to upgrade is a Dell I bought about 4 years ago - XP system with the ‘free’ vista upgrade disc that I never used. I thought that I would be able to use that Vista disc one day to hop-skip-jump to whatever OS came after the lamentable Vista debacle. Well I discovered (I think I discovered - I could be wrong) that the ‘free’ Vista upgrade disc is Vista Home Premium and the Windows Pro will not do an ‘in-place’ upgrade over it - I have to do a clean install, which I have never done.
Really, when I read the MS website, Microsoft seems to make it sound like ‘you can’t upgrade from Vista Home Premium’ to ‘Windows 7 Pro’ because it is not a supported upgrade - until you go to one of the MS user forums and read where a Microsoft moderator/advisor says that ‘a supported upgrade-in this case- refers to an in-place upgrade’ but that you can still do a clean install of the UPGRADE version of WIndows 7 Pro over XP Home etc.
Ok I am afraid to ask, does this deactivation take place with Office 2007? I had Office 2003 and wanted to install the 2007 package along side it. I expected both programs to be present on my machine after the install but 2007 removed my 2003. Does that mean it cheerily deactivated my license for 2003?
Back tracking through the links to academic discounts, I noticed an educational program discount that schools can register for that allows students to get MS software free. I believe the instructor said this approach was only useful for training because you cannot update the software (security updates etc.) I looked but I cannot find that statement on the program page but it makes sense since they aren’t likely to give updatable licenses out. There were many programs available - if you want to see if your school participates in it, I’ll include the link. As I recall I had to register and then had the choice of dealing directly with the lab guy at school (he could burn discs) or order online for delivery. I see they offer Win 7 but wonder how that would work if you really can’t update it. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/academic/dd861347.aspx
I have used that route last semester - it’s fine if you just want to learn a software program but not for something critical that you’d need to keep updated. Students can pick up Win Server 2003 to install and use for classes, for example.
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Except service packs always stay with the version of the original operating system. I understand your feeling of 7 being Vista SP3, and it seems like it in many ways, but in the nuts and bolts it is the next version, like going 2000 to XP.
Wait for the service pack.
> Except service packs always stay with the version of the original operating system. I understand your feeling of 7 being Vista SP3, and it seems like it in many ways, but in the nuts and bolts it is the next version, like going 2000 to XP.
Ah. Yeah, that's a reasonable assessment. Although I guess I take the from-a-distance view that all versions of the same major (e.g. '5' = 2K and XP; '6' = Vista and 7) are actually fairly similar under the hood.
XP followed 2K by less than two years, and I always thought of it as a bunch of fancy window dressing on 2K, until XP-SP2 came out and changed the security (and broke a lot of stuff in the process). I think of Win7 as Vista with a lot of fat excised out, and a bunch of hard lessons learned, but basically the same code underneath.
I won't believe Microsoft has -really- learned their lesson until they ditch the NT codebase, like they have been promising to do for the past 5 years. They seem to be incapable of getting beyond it.
Windows-over-Unix would be awesome if done right. But it might not ever be in Microsoft's repertoire. Too much "NIH Syndrome" (despite the fact that they were a Unix house long long ago).
> Wait for the service pack.
Won't have that option -- I pretty much -have- to switch over due to work requirements. Hell, we've been using Win7 on our engineering test machines since the early RCs... I've currently got the RTM in probably 40 places, in the form of 32-bit and 64-bit Ultimate, and the 2008 Server as well.
Personally (at home), I can risk using it because my primary machine is currently a Mac, so my Windows boxes are mainly for running the handful of Windows-only apps I need to run. So far, Win7 runs them fine...
I've actually entertained the idea of getting Win7, but not if I have to go through this mess! I'm not even sure what version I'd have to get (my last purchased windows OS was Win2k, many years ago). Makes linux even more appealing to me. I only have to choose between desktop and server versions, it's brain-dead easy to install and update, and it never "advises" me that I may be a victim of piracy.
I agree. I have installed the Ubuntu operating system on all my windows machines so that I can choose which OS to run when I boot my machine in the hopes that I will simply migrate over to Linux instead of going through the hoops with Microsoft. If I could learn to live on Unix then OpenOffice is the free office suite intended to rival MS OFfice.
Or perhaps the new, free, Chrome OS that is due out next year? FOr now I am staying in Windows in order to keep up on the software my employers want me to use. : (
Windows 7 is the SP2 release candidate for build 7600 of Vista.
This is not a new operating system, there are barely any new features, however as you said, I waited until Vista SP2 to upgrade from XP Pro.
TIP: High school and university students and faculty (and anyone else with a valid .edu email address that isn’t from an alumni association) can get a legit home copy of Windows 7 TODAY FOR FREE, at dreamspark.
1. google “dreamspark”
2. set up a dual dreamspark/windows liveID accountwith your .edu email.
3. Log in to Dreamspark.
4. Download Windows Server 2008 RC2 (REMEMBER TO SAVE/PRINT YOUR WINDOWS SERIAL KEY from the download page!!)
5. Burn a DVD for backup
6. Install Windows Server 2008 RC2
7. Follow the step by step tutorial from http://www.win2008r2workstation.com/
8. Add ONLY what you need from the tutorials.
By adding only what I needed I have been able to slim down Windows 7 to under 60 processes and that includes unnecessary processes like usb gaming controller ports.
TIP 2: High school and university students and faculty (and anyone else with a valid .edu email address that isn’t from an alumni association) can get a legit Home or Professional copy of Windows 7 on October 22nd FOR $29.99 at:
- You can choose win 7 Professional for the same price (SEE Attached below “Pro.png”)...
...[Click where it says “Need to join your school’s network domain? Click here” after you enter you are verified, and you get to the order page]
- The 32bit or 64bit option pertains to the download only.
- DVD Versions should contain both 32 and 64bit options on the same disc! Microsoft told me when ordering that the DVD contains BOTH Versions.
- Based on personal experience, the download page should list both 32 and 64 bit versions of the OS (not yet confirmed) and the key will work for both.
This is a PRE-ORDER promotion. Students who place a pre-order will receive an email on October 22nd, 2009 which will contain a link to access the download of their product. For those who purchased the Backup DVD, the disks will be shipped around this date and a separate shipping confirmation email will be sent confirming the shipment.
http://a2.slickdeals.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=267116&d=1254555234
You can download windows server 2008 RC2 (the server version of windows 7) and convert it back to Windows 7. It has full upgrade rights for life.
See my links above for details.
ping for later
Wow! Thanks!
For what it’s worth, Microsoft released a new version of the Windows Upgrade Advisor and when I ran it on my machine, it found ‘more’ than the prior version. I put the link below if you have not already found it.
The new advisor says my graphics adaptor will not run the Aero experience (but apparently will run Win 7 - just not pretty) and listed some of my software that will probably not run well while also providing a list of programs that are known compatible.
The first link is the microsoft advisor/latest version: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2354979/posts
This next link is a recent article “Tools to tell whether Windows 7 will work with your stuff” where I found the link above. http://www.enduserblog.com/2009/10/tools-to-tell-whether-windows-7-will-work-with-your-stuff.html
I notice there is another link re compatibility on the page I want to try.
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