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To: wintertime

“Natural born” was a term which came from the English legal system and referred to subjects of the King. In point of fact, the explication of the Constitution has taken on immense importantance and every lacuna of doubt has required the expertise of the legal system ending up in most cases before the Supreme Court.

By your reasoning only “Godliness” is important something rejected by the Founders in writing our Constitution.


78 posted on 10/02/2009 5:17:55 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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79 posted on 10/02/2009 5:22:36 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: arrogantsob
I **know** that if the term “natural born” were defined as exactly as you wish, and every other word, term, phrase, sentence, and paragraph also defined to this exactness, I **KNOW** that the Constitution would be the size of the IRS code, or ( at minimum ) the size of any health care bill the Democrats might propose.

I conclude that since the Founding Fathers did not define the term “natural born” that it was considered by them to have a self-evident and commonly understood meaning and needed no definition.

It is my personal opinion, on the other hand, that no amount of exactness in defining law, or number of laws will corral evil. Evil will leak through whether the term “natural born” had no definition ( being commonly understood) or 30 pages of official definition and commentary in our Constitution. Evil will find a way to destroy the rule of law no matter how expertly laws are written.

Ultimately, it is my opinion, ( and I believe it was shared by some of our Founding Fathers in their letters) that our success in self-rule will depend on our moral character ( and fear of the Lord) .

It is evident to me that Obama and his minions are not honest people of goodwill with the motivation to make our experiment in self-rule work.

An honest man would have been HONORED to promptly provide **all** documentation regarding his natural born status and his eligibility to be president.

So?...What do you think of someone who defends a president who does NOT promptly provide all documentation regarding his natural born status? What does it say about their character? How can anyone defend this and call themselves honest or moral?

In you previous post you are conflating what is opinion on my part and self-evident fact. Also, since I never suggested that “Godliness” be included in the Constitution, I can not defend a strawman of your creation.

In a private conversation, by using debating tactics such as these two above, you may frustrate your debating partner to the point of his leaving. You might falsely believe that you “won” the argument. Ah! ...But we are living in a new world now. Your words stand for all the bright people here on Free Republic to see, evaluate, and judge.

83 posted on 10/02/2009 5:46:50 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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