Posted on 10/02/2009 3:35:27 PM PDT by MissTickly
Does that expire at age 18 or 21?
The “dual citizenship” angle is a dead letter. NOTHING another country says or does can obviate American citizenship so even if he were declared a citizen of Indonesia it would not matter unless he renounced his American citizenship AS AN ADULT. No one can do it for him as a child.
Neither would having a parent as a non-citizen affect his citizenship IF he were born within the US. If “anchor” babies are citizens (and that is the current understanding unfortunately) then Barry is IF born within the US.
It all boils down to WAS he born here or Kenya? All the rest is just confused lawyering. Clearly we have not been shown any convincing evidence that he was and there are lots of circumstantial evidence that he was NOT.
I love to know that. I can’t imagine HI will comply. Heck no ones what HOSPITAL he was born in. No one wants to claim him.
Where will the Presidential Library be?
That is all well and good but NOTHING Britain or any other country can do can take away an American citizen’s citizenship. Said act is irrelevant to this issue.
It’s like extracting rear molars, isn’t it? I suspect that it will take more than just asking the right questions. (Something like a court order?) But the fact remains that these bureaucrats want to make sure that their responses are truthful, technically, though parsed to the limit. They don’t want to be culpable when it all blows up.
They already have acknowledged it. Fukino gave us the evidence in her statement. Vital Records that are on FILE—are records that are PENDING, but not accepted yet by the registrar and recorded.
We have the proof, Fukino did her job well for this nation.
Now how do we enforce our constitution? I’ll leave that to you guys-I am just here to point out the evidence in plain site. READ FUKINO’S JULY STATEMENT CAREFULLY.
But anchor babies can’t be “natural born” for Presidential purposes, because their Parents aren’t citizens?
BTW nothing in the Constitution references the definition of natural born citizenship.
Thanks, LucyT..
This is getting interesting.
Thanks, I’m going have to go back and read it.
And be sure to look at the COLB again. The information presented reflects info he is filing in ‘hopes’ it will be “Accepted by the State Registrar.”
Hopefully, the more Barry tanks, he’ll get tripped up by all the other OUTRAGES that are going on in his administration.
Such children are snuck into citizenship despite the explicit remarks to the contrary of the writers of the 14th amendment hence there appears to be no reason why they would not be considered “natural born” is they are considered citizens at all.
The issue was raised and the proposers of the amendment made it clear that such children were not to become citizens since the parents were not considered “under the jurisdiction of” the United States being interlopers.
Please absorb what I am saying. We don’t need his vital records, I believe that Fukino says it plainly if we can understand what “maintained on file” means. That’s what she said on July 27.
If “anchor” babies are citizens (and that is the current understanding unfortunately) then Barry is IF born within the US.
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This isn’t about whether he is a citizen. It is about his *natural born* status. BIG difference!
That’s what I thought. Doubt we will ever see a test of this.
Here is a genetist question. Obama Sr was very dark, Frank Marshal Davis looks quite a bit lighter. The nose of Zero and Davis are nearly identical. (What type of nose did mother have?) I know a white and black can have a nearly black child or nearly white child by appearance. The more I look at Davis, I really have to think he is the sperm donor.
Oh, yes, and another thing, maybe a little off-topic, but pertinent to the Indonesian connection: What is the paper trail for Barry Soetoro’s name change to Barack Hussein Obama? (Was a legal filing of some sort required?) Where would that have taken place, if at all? Hawaii? New York? Illinois? When exactly did he last use the name Barry Soetoro? Does anyone know??
I am not convinced your assumptions are correct wrt to imprecise language. It is unlikely that a filed document would remain “pending” for four decades or more for starters. The words likely refer to the same thing being in the files is the same as “on record” etc.
I’m with you on that. He doesn’t resemble his siblings that are bi-racial.
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