Case of Jailed Deadbeat non-dad Shows Need for Overhaul of Child Support Laws

MensNewsDaily.com ^ | September 29, 2009 | Denise Noe

[GeronL]

I think this happened to a guy in Texas too. He proved he wasn’t the father and the courts made him pay anyway.

[Mr. K]

"The mother was there at the time of the conception but it is unlikely that she was taking notes. Human memory is extremely fallible and this fallibility is exacerbated by the emotionality of questions involving sex and reproduction. Given these truths, a DNA test should be routinely taken before paternity is assigned."

Huh? The first part of this is extremely stupid, although the conclusion is correct.

The real baby-daddy should be found and forced to re-imburse him.

[randog]

He proved he wasn’t the father and the courts made him pay anyway.

It happens in a lot of states. If you make any indication that you're the daddy - even shacking up and playing daddy - that's good enough for the courts to make you permanent daddy.

[GeronL]

Of course, the case began because of a misidentification in paternity. Many observers would criticize the mother as a liar and see her as someone who should be prosecuted for what is often called “paternity fraud.” I do not. The mother was there at the time of the conception but it is unlikely that she was taking notes.

Please spare me. She knows who she had sex with. Otherwise she is in need of a rubber room.

[catbertz]

Wow. Every part of this story is full of win.

[GeronL]

The system is in need of big changes.

I also know of a case where the father of 2 girls refuses to pay child support. He acted crazy to get checks from the government and was likely pretty mad when they started taking his child support from that check.

[GeronL]

The system was one big FAIL for this guy.

[Berlin_Freeper]

- He had never been married to or even cohabiting with the boy’s mother. The two had a brief affair

There is a lesson in there - somewhere.

[sodpoodle]

Poor woman - she was simply the victim of an open womb.

[RogerFGay]

Please spare me. She knows who she had sex with. Otherwise she is in need of a rubber room.

There's a lot of paternity fraud around but Denise has a right to her opinion. I think these things are better evaluated on facts rather than speculation myself. To me, the word "unlikely" was not a good choice, opening her up to your criticism. How does she know? On the other hand, how do you know that she knows who she had sex with?

[zendari]

The guy is an idiot.

Get yourself a paternity test before signing anything.

[Blood of Tyrants]

The state has no interest in finding the REAL father when they can force this guy to pay.

[EricT.]

Please spare me. She knows who she had sex with. Otherwise she is in need of a rubber room.

Speaking of rubber...

This could have been prevented.

[RogerFGay]

I think this happened to a guy in Texas too. He proved he wasn’t the father and the courts made him pay anyway.

It's happened a lot, all over the country. There was pretty much a press black-out on reporting these stories - for almost two decades now - except in California, then an article by a California journalist that got into a national magazine. But even his writing didn't show that he was aware that it was a national problem - brought about by the federal take-over of domestic relations law - and converting it from civil law to that draconian commie "social policy" thingy.

[RogerFGay]

ping

[Danae]

Child Support laws are nothing more than a modern day Debtors Prison.

What they are doing should be illegal.

[ravingnutter]

She knows who she had sex with.

Actually, that doesn't always necessarily equate with knowing who the father of the baby is. Believe me...I worked with drug addicts and counseled young girls against abortions for years. Many don't remember who they have slept with, most addicts would have sex with total strangers to obtain drugs and some are raped while under the influence. I have even heard firsthand of "initiation" gang rapes.

[RogerFGay]

It is unconstitutional. The federal takeover of family law was the first major leg of the collapse of Constitutional rule.

[NEMDF]

“The Hatley case illustrates a crying need for an overhaul of the child support system. Firstly, there is the fact that poverty is not a defense against the failure to pay child support. Even if the child had been his, the facts are that Hatley was unable to adequately support himself and did not have the money to support the child.”
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I agree that he is, indeed, a victim of a bad system that would charge him for back support even after he is proven to not be the father. I disagree, however, that anyone (mothers or fathers) should be “let off the hook” as to their support obligations due to financial struggles.