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FRENCH REPEL 3 COUNTER-ATTACKS (9/24/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 9/24/39 | G.H. Archambault, Percy Knauth, John Pointer

Posted on 09/24/2009 5:40:21 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime”.)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 09/24/2009 5:40:22 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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[Brigadier General Joe] Stilwell reached Texas on September 24. As brigade commander he served as second in command of the division to General Walter Krueger. The Army, in search of speed and mobility, was using the 2nd Division to experiment with a streamlined triangular formation of three Infantry regiments amounting to 11,000 men instead of the 22,000 of the old square division. Galvanized by the German blitz in Poland, the 2nd Division and companion units of the Third Army entered into a winter of strenuous training, living in the field, marching and sleeping on the ground, often in rain and freezing weather.

Barbara W. Tuchman, Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911-45

2 posted on 09/24/2009 5:41:08 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Chopin’s Polonaise in A, Op.40 No.1, ' Military '
3 posted on 09/24/2009 5:44:41 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Churchill sent out several memos today but the photobucket link is not working. I will check it out and post later.

The International Situation – 2
Nazis Hurled Back – 2-4
Incidents in European Conflict – 4
Final Victory Won in East, Nazis Say – 5-6
Brazilians to Speed Purchasing in U. S. – 6
Von Fritsch Killed on Warsaw Front – 7
Fritsch Opposed Politics in Army – 7-9
Hitler’s Heirs (NYT Magazine) – 10-13
Rotogravure Picture Section* - 14-20
Dr. Sigmund Freud Dies in Exile at 83 – 21-23

* This is sort of an experiment. Some may come through the fiche-to-posted process better than others.

4 posted on 09/24/2009 5:47:22 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Fascinating... I had no idea that Mussolini wanted out of the war, and frankly I’m surprised the French and Polish successes.

And isn’t strange to see a military victory on the Germans described as “advancing on Borg”?


5 posted on 09/24/2009 5:54:35 AM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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They still had hope. Reading these old news stories gives you a god-like perspective. The people writing in their time/space had no idea what was coming but we do.


6 posted on 09/24/2009 5:56:21 AM PDT by DManA
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Fascinating... I had no idea that Mussolini wanted out of the war, and frankly I’m surprised the French and Polish successes.

... nevermind; I guess the NYT was a little optimistic about fighting the Nazis. I checked out a timeline, and it matches my recollection of my history classes much better. 10 days to conquer Poland.


7 posted on 09/24/2009 5:57:06 AM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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Final Victory Won in East, Nazis Say

I'm sure the Soviets could verify that fact as well.

8 posted on 09/24/2009 6:05:01 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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[Sunday does not mean a day of rest for Winnie – Homer]





Winston S. Churchill, The Gathering Storm
9 posted on 09/24/2009 6:06:33 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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10 days to conquer Poland.

Not quite. The Germans invaded on September 1. It is now the 24th. As long as the Chopin Polonaise (see reply #3) is still being broadcast from Warsaw the Poles are holding out.

10 posted on 09/24/2009 6:10:10 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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They still had hope. Reading these old news stories gives you a god-like perspective. The people writing in their time/space had no idea what was coming but we do.

Exactly, it's almost surreal to think about how optimistic they all sound.

11 posted on 09/24/2009 6:20:30 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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von Fritsh, holding the rank of Col. General, one step below Feldmarschall, former C-in-C of the German army, dies in a command slot normally occupied by a Lt. Col, performing duties normally carried out by a Hauptmann or Leutnant.

The article discusses his dismissal in the army purge, but does not give details. Fritsch was a lifelong bachelor, dedicated to the army. Hitler wanted him gone because of his independence, so he had Himmler and Goring go find a seedy male prostitute, who gave a false affidavit alleging a homosexual encounter with Fritsch. The threat of smear alone was enough to destroy him. Even though the witness recanted and Fritsch was cleared, he was never restored to a suitable post.

The article identifies Blomberg, the chief of staff who was purged at the same time. It states he was pressured into resigning because he married his secretary after his wife died. There was more to it than that. Again Himmler’s fingerprints are on that case: his agents dug up her record and found she’d been a prostitute. Hitler knew this in advance when he had personally given his blessing on the marriage, and then later sprung it on Blomberg.

So went the manner of Hitler’s purge of his military leadership. It was a far better fate, though, than the victims of Stalin’s purges.

One wonders in the case of Fritsch whether he deliberately sought death on the battlefield as his final vindication.


12 posted on 09/24/2009 7:13:52 AM PDT by henkster (0bamanomics: The "Final Solution" to America's "Prosperity Question.")
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Hah! I knew those Nazis would not be able to break through those defenses! They were stupid to even try. That line of interlocking bunkers in impregnable!
13 posted on 09/24/2009 7:48:26 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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One wonders in the case of Fritsch whether he deliberately sought death on the battlefield as his final vindication.

Here is what Shirer has to say on the matter ("The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich").

On August 7, 1939, as the war clouds darkened, he wrote . . . "For me there is, neither in peace nor in war, any part in Herr Hitler's Germany. I shall accompany my regiment only as a target, because I cannot stay at home."

That is what he did. On August 11, 1938, he had been named colonel in chief of his old regiment, the 12th Artillery Regiment, a purely honorary title. On September 22, 1939, he was the target of a Polish machine gunner before beleaguered Warsaw, and four days later he was buried with full military honors in Berlin on a cold, rainy, dark morning, one of the dreariest days, according to my diary, I ever lived through in the capital.

Here is a link to the purge article I posted for Feb 5, 1938, only the third posting of this series. (I was transcribing and still learning how to simulate the Times' format.)

Hitler Assumes Control of Army (2/5/38)

14 posted on 09/24/2009 7:54:47 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Fabulous stuff. Working through the war with my son each day for the next year is going to be a blast. I’ll share what I find as I fill in his education.

Here are some nice personal accounts from what at the time were Polish children. It may have been posted already. I’m only into the first 7d so far. We have some catch up to do.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/media_oi.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005070&MediaId=1231


15 posted on 09/24/2009 8:53:54 AM PDT by steveyp
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Paris - She was well dressed, her nose in the air under a pert Parisian hat.
Boulevard policement turned to look as she passed. One of them chanced to look at her feet. They were big - big in a masculine way.
The stroller was stopped and questioned. "She" wasn't a woman at all, but a man disguised - and a German. He was sent promptly to a concentration camp, classified as an "undesirable"

In more ways than one!

16 posted on 09/24/2009 10:26:49 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (My tagline is an honor student at Free Republic Elementary School.)
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One of the ironies, is that Praga, the poorer section of Warsaw sustained less damage than the West bank of the Vistula. So today, the west part of Warsaw is pretty much all new and modern, while Praga still looks pretty much like it did before the war. It’s almost like going from West to East Berlin during the Cold War.


17 posted on 09/24/2009 10:35:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Those Fashion Police can be brutal.


18 posted on 09/24/2009 10:38:23 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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He should have kept up with the latest in Nazi fashion.

19 posted on 09/24/2009 11:25:14 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (My tagline is an honor student at Free Republic Elementary School.)
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What a magazine cover! The uniform's all screwed up.

The Death's head on the hat was used pre-1934. With a different eagle. The SS, [except for the camp guards], stopped wearing brown shirts with their black tunics when Hitler made them independent of the SA after the night of the Long Knives. Which makes the campaign ribbons too early

He's got a Waffen SS sleeve band [”Der Fuhehrer” Standarte], but an SD diamond on the sleeve.

The eagle on his sleeve would be lower. Under where the armband is.

Except for the party badge, can't make out the medals, BUT the one with the swastika on the wreath, I've never seen.

He should have two epaulets on the tunic. He's wearing a Knight's Cross. So the picture is post 1938. SS officers wore two epaulets by then. Aside from that, no major errors.

20 posted on 09/24/2009 12:39:22 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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