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The Unkindest Flush
Washington Post ^ | 9/24/2009 | David Fahrenthold

Posted on 09/23/2009 8:37:11 PM PDT by Saije

There is a battle for America's behinds.

It is a fight over toilet paper: the kind that is blanket-fluffy and getting fluffier so fast that manufacturers are running out of synonyms for "soft" (Quilted Northern Ultra Plush is the first big brand to go three-ply and three-adjective).

It's a menace, environmental groups say -- and a dark-comedy example of American excess.

The reason, they say, is that plush U.S. toilet paper is usually made by chopping down and grinding up trees that were decades or even a century old. They want Americans, like Europeans, to wipe with tissue made from recycled paper goods.

It has been slow going. Big toilet-paper makers say that they've taken steps to become more Earth-friendly but that their customers still want the soft stuff, so they're still selling it.

This summer, two of the best-known combatants in this fight signed a surprising truce, with a big tissue maker promising to do better. But the larger battle goes on -- the ultimate test of how green Americans will be when nobody's watching.

"At what price softness?" said Tim Spring, chief executive of Marcal Manufacturing, a New Jersey paper maker that is trying to persuade customers to try 100 percent recycled paper. "Should I contribute to clear-cutting and deforestation because the big [marketing] machine has told me that softness is important?"

He added: "You're not giving up the world here."

Toilet paper is far from being the biggest threat to the world's forests: together with facial tissue, it accounts for 5 percent of the U.S. forest-products industry, according to industry figures. Paper and cardboard packaging makes up 26 percent of the industry, although more than half is made from recycled products. Newspapers account for 3 percent.

But environmentalists say 5 percent is still too much.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: environment; toiletpaper; uncomfortable
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Great, now I'm going to have to start hoarding toilet paper.
1 posted on 09/23/2009 8:37:12 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije

I already do but just from my wife and MIL


2 posted on 09/23/2009 8:40:17 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;))
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It's a menace, environmental groups say

Yea it's a menace to those 1.5g per flush toilets that you made us get too.

3 posted on 09/23/2009 8:40:28 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: Saije

“They want Americans, like Europeans, to wipe with tissue made from recycled paper goods.’

I just can’t get behind this.


4 posted on 09/23/2009 8:41:32 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (Remember. There's no "U" in Government.)
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To: Saije

The Washington butt-wipes decree how the peasants will wipe butts.


5 posted on 09/23/2009 8:42:31 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Saije

Maybe environmentalists should start using the corn cobs reclaimed from ethanol production.


6 posted on 09/23/2009 8:43:11 PM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Saije

Where have all are heroes gone?

7 posted on 09/23/2009 8:44:34 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Your It.)
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To: Saije

I remember the paper they used in the Underground loo in London. It was a blend of waxed paper and the yellow tracing paper we use for sketching in our design office; in fact we call the tracing paper “bum wad” because of the similarity.

Even worse was the stuff that passed for toilet paper in China during the Seventies and Eighties - a thin version of the cardboard that comes with your pressed shirts from the commercial laundry. Yow!

In the Italian public facilities, had to pay 4 or 5 lire per sheet of T.P. that was only slightly better than above. Those restroom attendants made out like bandits.


8 posted on 09/23/2009 8:47:49 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: Saije
(Quilted Northern Ultra Plush is the first big brand to go three-ply and three-adjective).

uh oh
9 posted on 09/23/2009 8:49:38 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: Saije

Just go to Sam’s Club and buy a pallet of Scotts.

It’s cheap, there’s a lot of it on the roll and it works.

What more does anyone need?....:)


10 posted on 09/23/2009 8:52:34 PM PDT by Salamander (..But I was not all alone. I made friends with a lot of people in the danger zone.....)
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Newspapers account for 3 percent.

That is way too much waste.

11 posted on 09/23/2009 8:52:58 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: Saije

“Bring those corn cobs, Ma”.


12 posted on 09/23/2009 8:53:45 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Saije

The use of paper creates a demand for trees.

Someday we will admit that such demand helps the environment rather than hurts it.

For now, it is useful to argue for brazen contradictions until capitalism collapses.


13 posted on 09/23/2009 8:54:14 PM PDT by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: Saije

I hope you have light bulbs stocked up too.

I think they should ban newspapers personally.


14 posted on 09/23/2009 9:01:48 PM PDT by GeronL (Are you one of those "individual responsibility" people?)
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To: lonestar67

Yep, just like if humans didn’t eat chicken, it’d be an endangered species.


15 posted on 09/23/2009 9:04:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Are you one of those "individual responsibility" people?)
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To: Saije

“The reason, they say, is that plush U.S. toilet paper is usually made by chopping down and grinding up trees that were decades or even a century old. “

YOU LIE!
Paper products are made from trees planted and grown as a crop.


16 posted on 09/23/2009 9:18:30 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Saije

When are they getting this eco-toilet paper in the White House? Ha.


17 posted on 09/23/2009 9:23:06 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black.)
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To: Saije
They want Americans, like Europeans, to wipe with tissue made from recycled paper goods.

When we were stationed in Germany, our community had a "little Octoberfest" every year as a fund-raiser. We sold stuff the Germans don't usually get. Popcorn with salt instead of sugar, hamburgers, corn on the cob, and - you guessed it - toilet paper.

Their TP felt like brown paper towels, they couldn't get enough of the soft stuff we were selling.

18 posted on 09/23/2009 10:24:05 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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you know what i can never understand? they can have the same manufacturing as us - why don’t they make nice tissue? I just don’t get it! You can’t find soft tissue over there. And look how thin the sheet metal is on their appliances. We’d trash what they have. Why don’t they make it thicker?


19 posted on 09/23/2009 10:26:47 PM PDT by Nodems2000 (Beheadngs are better says atlanta holy man)
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To: FrogMom

When I was a lad, a neighbor took his family to Russia, and his kid showed me a sample of Russian toilet paper. It reminded me of wax paper.


20 posted on 09/23/2009 10:41:49 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ("Prosperity is just around the corner." Herbert Hoover, 1932)
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