No response to the nice folks who have offered help and or advice?
With employment in a larger company they can get healthcare.
According to the Congressional Budget Office, Obamacare will increase the deficit by 300 billion to 1.6 Trillion. That works out to somewhere between $3000 and $16,000 per taxpayer.
Obamacare doesn't preclude public funding for abortions. Something most conservatives consider murder.
Obamacare will fine employers 3600 per year per employee for not offering healthcare to employees. That will put small businesses out of business and hurt the people that it's supposed to help.
Citizens will be forced to buy insurance or pay penalties.
The federal government has no right to do this. The Consititution limits the role of Congress to defense and regulating (making regular) interstate commerce.
Most of the proposals have no mechanism for preventing illegal aliens from getting free healthcare.
There seems to be a presupposition that if you’re denied healthcare insurance, that means you don’t get healthcare. No, it only means you have to pay for it yourself. Good reason to start a Health Savings Account. The nice thing about these is that you put pre-tax dollars into them, sheltering some of your income.
Many health insurance companies offer coverage for everything except the disallowed preexisting disease state. For instance, if your son who had cancer wants to apply for coverage he can stipulate that he’ll be covered for broken legs and hernias, asthma and diabetes, cataracts and corns, heart disease and high blood pressure—but not for cancer.
If he spends five years cancer-free, he should be able to get regular insurance again. I have friends who have survived two bouts with cancer and still have coverage.
Hospitals and major cancer treatment centers will accept a payment plan.
If you want a very brief answer for why the obama plan is so awful, there’s plenty of information available on the Internet. Suffice it to say in the briefest way that the government’s previous experiments in taking over healthcare—here in the US with the VA, Indian Health Service, Medicare, and Medicaid—have been a disaster of ever-escalating costs and ever-declining care. No other nation has had success with the concept either, with the possible exception of Switzerland, a tiny, socially homogeneous, and very prosperous nation that accepts only the very rich as immigrants.
Since Sep 21, 2009
You burned up five years in a single morning?
Why you lyin' to me Phyllis?
As for your other, older son, if he's healthy enough to move to Seattle, he's healthy enough to get a job, isn't he? If not, then he should be on Social Security and he'd get medicaid. Either way, problem solved.
Or, if he just wanted to run his own business, he could get whatever your state's equivalent is of Blue Cross/Blue Shield Adult Basic coverage. It'll run him about $300 a month, but if he can't swing that and you're unwilling or unable to assist him with it, then he needs to get a job with benefits.
Sure, using an account created today. Either you're lying about being a member so long or you don't want your current post to be linked to your other FR account.
It's a bit hard to get past the deception to the actual questions in this post.
If this program in Seattle works, why do we need a national program that kills our current system, interjects mediocrity where there is currently excellence, and drives the best of our medical doctors out of the healthcare business?? Obama’s plan is a one-size-fits-all that only really works for a few at the detriment of many.
Washington State Basic Health has a 9 month exclusion for pre-existing conditions (with no continuous coverage). Also, there is a long waiting list for the program with the state’s budget problems (and they aren’t improving).
The cancer son, is a prime example of why we do need to reform insurance, but not the way Obama wants to do it.
Read this article about insuring preexisting conditions.
Insuring Preexisting conditions
The problem with Obama's plan is that he wants to make the government responsible for the insurance and when governement is involved a lot of bad things happen.
I don’t have a job right now.
Should the government be required to give me a job?
They give me unemployement checks. (They just print them I guess.)
My mortgage is kind of high.
I think Someone else should pay for it!
I don’t want to pay for gas either . (I am really tired of that.)
In fact I am tired of paying for food also you should buy my food!
Point is life cannot be completely fair.
People with your attitude are willing to lead everyone else off the cliff because of your own selfishness.
Maybe your sons should work and save money while they can
and than government.(Buck it up!)
Maybe an employer can afford to hire me if the Government would take their boot off of their back.
The American Constitution does not insure that you will be insured...
I suggest praying... there are things WORSE than death..
Diabetes is not a particularly expensive disease to treat if you don’t act like an idiot with your diet. I get a generic drug at Walmart for $4.00 a month. His might be more but ot’s nothing to ring your hands about. As far as the cancer that’s what medicaid is all about. It does not sound as though you are them have done a lot of research.
First decide whether you want your kids to be responsible for themselves or dependents upon the government.
If you want them to be responsible for themselves, living full lives and raising up grandchildren for you and your wife to enjoy. Then you will teach them about Emergency Funds, Savings, budgets and how Insurance really works as well as marital harmony. You will enable them for life despite their difficulties.
If you want them to be dependent upon government and chances are slim that you will get grandchildren (let alone that they be legitimate). You need to teach them nothing. They will learn to mooch off the government and the rest of us naturally. The press will give them clues how to live the disabled or other "lifestyles" and they will probably royal pain in the A$$e$ for you and your extended family for decades.
It really is a choice like that. If you could see ahead into the future and feel all the pain they will inflict on you and your wife, you would abandon the government option in a heartbeat, you would drill into them, at all costs to be self sustaining and to be the best they can be, with all your heart. As government help is a chimera, it promises much but the fruit that help is typically - very bad.
Your 2nd son can get insurance, no problem, on his own when he either:
a. gets a job or
b. makes some funding arrangements for himself such that he buys into a health savings plan.
As regards your firstborn, he doesn’t seem too responsible. Flunking out of school is an indication of dumbery in any instance, and for him to have done it in his circumstance shows that he doesn’t appreciate anything, but manna from heaven and believes that things just automatically happen, lucky for him. That’s definitely an 0bama voter.
So, as for their question about why 0bama’s plan is so bad, ignore the first son because everything is wasted on him, but you can tell the 2nd son that socialized med. has failed everywhere it’s been tried. In Italy, for instance, they don’t have paper dresses in gynecology, no gloves for blood draws, dot matrix printers (in only some depts., many dep’ts. have no printers at all), Italian women never go the gov’t. drs. for gyn. needs because it takes a yr. to get an appt., etc.. Here’s an example. Justine Henin’s mother died of cancer when she was about 12. Now they have another tennis player, Wickmayer, who is in a similar circumstance. You tell me. How can the nos. be so inordinately high? How do we have not a single tennis player who lost a parent to cancer at that tender age? Can it really be just a statistical anomaly? Here’s this little country, 3 tennis players to its name, 2 of whom have had only 1 parent starting at age 12. Something doesn’t seem quite right.
I’m a little taken aback by the vitriol in the replies you’ve gotten. Even if you are a troll, you’ve asked a reasonable question. One of the many unsavory tactics of the left is to relentless attack the messenger (ever heard of Glenn Beck, or Hannah Giles?) and ignore the message.
One possible solution is Medi-Share, a non-profit Christian organization that takes member’s monthly dues and allocates them to members that have medical expenses. I’m not sure what their underwriting rules are, but you can get more info at medi-share.org.