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Rare Coins: Family Treasure or Ill-Gotten Goods?[1933 Double Eagle]
The New York Times ^
| 15 Sep 2009
| JOHN SCHWARTZ
Posted on 09/17/2009 10:35:27 AM PDT by BGHater
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posted on
09/17/2009 10:35:28 AM PDT
by
BGHater
To: BGHater
Idiot.
The last people you being into confidence are cops, politicans and the federal government.
2
posted on
09/17/2009 10:36:30 AM PDT
by
SJSAMPLE
To: BGHater
Lady Liberty looks pretty guilty. Yikes!
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posted on
09/17/2009 10:37:18 AM PDT
by
Sherman Logan
("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
To: BGHater
But after the Langbord family took the coins to the United States Mint to be authenticated
I think I would only take one in.....................
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posted on
09/17/2009 10:38:51 AM PDT
by
PeterPrinciple
( Seeking the truth here folks.)
To: BGHater
prove it feds.
or give them back.
5
posted on
09/17/2009 10:38:57 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
To: BGHater
Moral of the story. If the government wants something valuable of yours it will take seize steal it just as blatantly as any other armed robber. The case of the 1776 copy of the declaration of independence several years ago comes to mind.
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posted on
09/17/2009 10:39:02 AM PDT
by
from occupied ga
(Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
To: Sherman Logan
they had a different standard of guilt back then!
To: BGHater
Couldn’t there be some statue of limitation about this? It was in their possession...and they can’t prove that the present owners had stolen them...
To: SJSAMPLE
Reminds me of a story I heard many years ago about a guy in Oregon who bought a sheet of stamps and noticed a major printing error. He went around showing off his discover and telling people how this could lead to him making big bucks and a local paper picked up the story and printed it. Within a month the government began printing millions of that stamp with that error reducing his once precious discovery to nothing more than a sheet of stamps.
And announcing you have 9 of them is not a real good idea either. If I recall there were only supposed to be two of the 1933 double eagles in existence and adding 9 more will knock that $7 million price down quite quite a bit.
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posted on
09/17/2009 10:43:58 AM PDT
by
scory
To: SJSAMPLE
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posted on
09/17/2009 10:45:45 AM PDT
by
Quix
(POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
To: scory
I have dreams of a find like this.
One of my mother’s EIGHT brothers was a wandering, semi-homeless hermit type. He lived in a cheap hotel room and made his living fixing old broken radios. When he died in 1983, they found a stash of Krugerrands in a shoebox.
No historic value, but worth $250,000 in bullion value.
Split among the 10 living kids (those randy Polish Catholics).
That stuff never happens to me, but I’m keeping an eye on the kids’ great grandma. She can’t last forever.
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posted on
09/17/2009 10:48:37 AM PDT
by
SJSAMPLE
To: BGHater
In an interview, Ms. Frankel called Mr. Berkes success in persuading the judge to shift the burden of proof onto the government in the case quite an amazing accomplishment that forces the government to prove a negative that the coins could not have gotten out legally.Uhh, I thought that was the way things were supposed to work.
"No person shall be ... deprived of ... property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."
12
posted on
09/17/2009 10:51:11 AM PDT
by
Sherman Logan
("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
To: Sherman Logan
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posted on
09/17/2009 10:53:38 AM PDT
by
K-oneTexas
(I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
To: BGHater
Court order or not, he’s never getting his coins back.
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posted on
09/17/2009 10:55:05 AM PDT
by
SandWMan
( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
To: BGHater
“took the coins to the United States Mint to be authenticated...”
Ooohhh... That was dumb.
Sad.
15
posted on
09/17/2009 10:59:50 AM PDT
by
El Sordo
To: El Sordo
When word got out that he had them, believe me, our benevolent government would have sent the Brute Squad to confiscate them anyway...
But yes, it wasn’t the brightest idea...
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posted on
09/17/2009 11:02:20 AM PDT
by
SandWMan
( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
To: Sherman Logan
It's not your property if you don't have title to it. And the title to an item that was stolen (if that's what happened) does not magically transfer itself to you just because a lot of time has passed.
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posted on
09/17/2009 11:03:55 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: rovenstinez
You are evidently ignoring the sadly obvious fact that modern goobermint is only interested in the rule of law when THEY find it convenient.
The narrative in the story is one of theft, plain and simple. The 'lucky' finders of the coins were idiots to take ALL of them to the Mint.
Proper strategy: take (don't ship) 9 of them to, say, Nevis (which does not recognise civil orders of recovery from ANY other nation). Then, take the remaining coin to the Mint. Have the Mint issue an opinion of authenticity, and then have the remaining coins AND the opinion (or certification, perhaps) of authenticity auctioned by a reputable international auction house.
Oh, and don't forget to expatriate (lawfully) prior to the auction. This way, the coin stolen by the Mint effectively becomes just 'taxes paid'.
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posted on
09/17/2009 11:04:18 AM PDT
by
SAJ
(way too late to 'work within the system'. just about time for rebellion)
To: 1rudeboy
In the US Code, only murder and treason are not subject to statute of limitations, iinm.
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posted on
09/17/2009 11:06:27 AM PDT
by
SAJ
(way too late to 'work within the system'. just about time for rebellion)
To: 1rudeboy
It's not your property if you don't have title to it. Do you have title to the US currency in your wallet? No? Then hand it over.
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posted on
09/17/2009 11:06:51 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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