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1 posted on 09/17/2009 10:35:28 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Idiot.
The last people you being into confidence are cops, politicans and the federal government.


2 posted on 09/17/2009 10:36:30 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: BGHater

Lady Liberty looks pretty guilty. Yikes!


3 posted on 09/17/2009 10:37:18 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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But after the Langbord family took the coins to the United States Mint to be authenticated


I think I would only take one in.....................


4 posted on 09/17/2009 10:38:51 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: BGHater

prove it feds.

or give them back.


5 posted on 09/17/2009 10:38:57 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: BGHater
Moral of the story. If the government wants something valuable of yours it will take seize steal it just as blatantly as any other armed robber. The case of the 1776 copy of the declaration of independence several years ago comes to mind.
6 posted on 09/17/2009 10:39:02 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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Couldn’t there be some statue of limitation about this? It was in their possession...and they can’t prove that the present owners had stolen them...


8 posted on 09/17/2009 10:40:16 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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In an interview, Ms. Frankel called Mr. Berke’s success in persuading the judge to shift the burden of proof onto the government in the case “quite an amazing accomplishment” that forces the government “to prove a negative — that the coins could not have gotten out legally.”

Uhh, I thought that was the way things were supposed to work.

"No person shall be ... deprived of ... property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

12 posted on 09/17/2009 10:51:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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Court order or not, he’s never getting his coins back.


14 posted on 09/17/2009 10:55:05 AM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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“took the coins to the United States Mint to be authenticated...”

Ooohhh... That was dumb.

Sad.


15 posted on 09/17/2009 10:59:50 AM PDT by El Sordo
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To: BGHater
1933 Double Eagle
24 posted on 09/17/2009 11:13:56 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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Do you have title to the US currency in your wallet?

Actually, he does.

U.S. currency is a liability on the Fed's balance sheet - meaning whoever has possession of the Federal Reserve Note has a claim against the Fed.

Of course, the Fed pays its claims in more Federal Reserve Notes, but that's beside the point.

30 posted on 09/17/2009 11:21:24 AM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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Not to endorse the NYT but IF the article is accurate these coins were ordered destroyed and the only way they left the mint was by thievery. While it may prevent prosecution of a crime the statue of limitations does not convey title. You can never legally own something you stole unless of course your a government. You can legally own something someone else stole so long as you bought it in good faith which makes you a “holder in due course”.

That said and with possession usually being 9/10th’s of the law. He should have not gone to the Treasury until he established legality of ownership. He probably would have ended up with 1/3 to 1/2 of the loot because the Treasury wants the money and will not destroy the coins. Of course that would be illegal since it violates a presidential order.

Oh heck go with the Nevis scenario.

34 posted on 09/17/2009 11:33:19 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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A fascinating story. I’ve read both these books and have followed this story since.

Alison Frankel: Double Eagle: the epic story of the world’s most valuable coin. New York: Norton, 2006 ISBN 0-393-05949-9

David Tripp: Illegal tender : gold, greed, and the mystery of the lost 1933 Double Eagle. New York: Free Press, 2004 ISBN 0-7432-4574-1


35 posted on 09/17/2009 11:34:22 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in thehttp://www.start news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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Being the contrarian here;

The printed these up wrong, so they kept them at the mint. They were not released. Instead, someone stole them from the mint.

Now, the descendents of a person who worked at the mint find 9 of them in a safe deposit box.

How could they possibly have gotten these things legally?

This isn’t like the government trying to seize your gold after you’ve purchased it on the open market.

Sure, we can talk about all the ways these people could have gotten rich from this, but if they were stolen from the mint, why should they get rich?

It is interesting that, in general, if property that is known to be stolen shows up, the law requires it be returned to the person who had it stolen, even if the person who now has it paid someone else for it.

Or is there really a question as to whether these coins were stolen from the mint? It doesn’t seem there is such a question, from the article.


42 posted on 09/17/2009 12:28:05 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Will the government next seize some or all safety deposit boxes under the guise of searching for more stolen property?


49 posted on 09/17/2009 1:39:30 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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One of my ancestors was a good doobie and turned in his small golden nest egg when FDR called in all the gold. All those old gold pieces are worth a lot (probably not millions though).


66 posted on 09/20/2009 3:21:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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