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Heathcare rumblings from the dark side of the moon
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Posted on 09/09/2009 1:11:54 PM PDT by cycle of discernment

Edited on 09/09/2009 1:15:34 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Democratic underground poster recommends Defcon --------------------------------------------------- grantcart (1000+ posts)

Liberals: Prepare for Defcon: Level Bats*** Crazy

A liberal civil rights leader told me almost 40 years ago that the liberals on the committee were going to lose.

In the end we would be out manouvered and he was right.

The setting was the city's largest liberal mainline church. Booming when other churches shrank it had money and power. It stood up against the war, hunger and civil rights.

The senior pastor was leaving and the wise old attorney asked me if the other 5 liberals on the pastor seeking committee were all reasonable people. "Yes they are all reasonable".

"Well that was the problem with liberals - they are reasonable."

"Rather than losing a good thing we give a little, give a little more. All the other side has to do is to wear you down with unreasonableness.

They don't care if a good thing is lost - they are habitually unreasonable.

For Liberals to win you have to be prepared to go to Defcon: Bats*** Crazy.

That's how we broke them in Selma. Wouldn't ride a bus for a year.

That's how we stopped the war, we went bats*** in the street until it hurt their business. Unless you are ready to go bats*** - liberals will lose in negotiations everytime."

The Public Option is our compromise position.

If you have lived overseas or have talked with people who have experienced it, its hard to express how retrograde our health system is and how reasonable single payer is.

Single Payer is not a particularly liberal position.

The Conservative Parties of England, Canada and Australia all love single payer.

The Democratic Party, Single Payer and the Public Option are not wild eyed radicals and policies, they are in the middle of the developed world. This country has moved so far to the right that middle of the road seems radical.

So we have to be prepared to go all out - committ to complete bats*** crazy - on the Public Option compromise.

NO PUBLIC OPTION THEN NO HEALTH BILL.

And if that puts on the other side of the Whitehouse on this one (and I don't think it will) then we still go bats*** and those of us who love the man can still love him, its business its not personal.

Going bats*** now is essential if we are going to have any power in the next 7 years. If the moderates and the conservative Democrats think that we are always going to be there then they are going to take us for granted on all of the other issues that we want to advance in the future - size of the military budget - for example. Instead of trying to negotiate with us they will only be interested in negotitating with Republicans.

So even if Health Care doesn't get passed now it will be better for us in the long run.

Every once in a while liberals have to stop being reasonable and just be bats*** crazy. The Public Option is one of those times.


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1 posted on 09/09/2009 1:11:54 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment
Mission accomplished.

"Reasonable liberal." That sounds like a Rodney Dangerfield punchline.

2 posted on 09/09/2009 1:19:30 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: cycle of discernment
Every once in a while liberals have to stop being reasonable and just be bats*** crazy.

The only time the liberals are not bats*** crazy is that when they are barking bats*** crazy. Some times they go to howling moonbats*** crazy. The only time they are not crazy is when they are stoned out of their minds from drinking the liberal koolaid.

Bring it to the streets. Force the issue.
3 posted on 09/09/2009 1:22:06 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: willgolfforfood

Stopped what war last I looked Comrade Obama was still sending troops to both wars?


4 posted on 09/09/2009 1:23:43 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: cycle of discernment
Unless you are ready to go bats*** - liberals will lose in negotiations everytime.”

Translation, we have to throw a hissy and act like a**holes long enough and the other side will give up.

5 posted on 09/09/2009 1:27:27 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( MARSOC DAD)
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To: chris_bdba

Well, 40 years ago, it would have been Viet Nam. And the LOST the war.


6 posted on 09/09/2009 1:49:36 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: cycle of discernment
Every once in a while liberals have to stop being reasonable and just be bats*** crazy.

The reason you can't figure out what's going on is because you don't even realize that batsh*t crazy is where you live!

7 posted on 09/09/2009 1:59:40 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: chris_bdba
Stopped what war last I looked Comrade Obama was still sending troops to both wars?
8 posted on 09/09/2009 2:17:17 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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