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To: Mad Dawgg
It was clear that the VP is the successor of the President, the 25th clarified who came next.

Joe Biden was elected VPOTUS of the USA by the electoral college. If for any reason the POTUS is deemed ineligible or unable to seve during the time Biden is VPOTUS, then Biden becomes POTUS.

That is the direct language of the Constitution both in its original drafting, and according to the 25th Amendment.

There is no “we was robbed so we get a do over” clause.

148 posted on 09/10/2009 10:02:45 AM PDT by allmendream
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To: allmendream

If Obama was forced out by ineligibility, and Biden became president, he would be terrified of doing anything wrong or “unAmerican” and would be the puppet of conservatives.

I am certain of that. Because if Pelosi et al certified Obama without constitutional eligibility in all 50 states, then the democrats would be investigated from top to bottom, and the public outcry against them would be too powerful to resist.


151 posted on 09/10/2009 10:19:12 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Drill here! Drill NOW! Defund the EPA!)
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To: allmendream
"It was clear that the VP is the successor of the President, the 25th clarified who came next."

Really? Strange, Have you really studied the Constitution and the history of Succession because you state such was Iron Clad yet:

The wording of this clause caused much controversy at the time it was first used. When William Henry Harrison died in office, a debate arose as to whether or not the Vice President actually becomes President, or if he would just inherit the powers, thus becoming an Acting President. Harrison's Vice President, John Tyler, believed that he had the right to become President. However, many Senators argued that he only had the right to assume the powers of the presidency long enough to call for a new election. Because the wording of the clause is so vague, it was impossible for either side to prove its point. Tyler ended up taking the Oath of Office and became President, setting a precedent that is followed to this day. Tyler's precedent made it possible for Vice Presidents Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester Arthur, Theodore Roosevelt, Calvin Coolidge, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson to ascend to the presidency (Gerald Ford took office after the passage of the Twenty-fifth Amendment).

"Joe Biden was elected VPOTUS of the USA by the electoral college. If for any reason the POTUS is deemed ineligible or unable to seve during the time Biden is VPOTUS, then Biden becomes POTUS."

"That is the direct language of the Constitution both in its original drafting, and according to the 25th Amendment."

Only problem is you choose to forget a couple of things on succession. First understand when the Supreme Court takes up a Constitutional matter they are mostly concerned with divining the intent of the original Document and the founders.

Next consider that when the Founders wrote the succession part of the Constitution they knew that the Vice President was chosen by the electors by virtue of him getting the second most votes.

Now consider that Joe Biden was not chosen by the electors as the second place guy but he was chosen by the electors based on him being on the same ticket as Obama who in fact chose Biden as his running mate. Now if such is the case then apparently a Vice President is chosen for the ticket by the head of the ticket. and in this case if the head of the ticket was ineligible then how can he legally choose a running mate?

The intent of the Founders was that a Legal Candidate be President by virtue of an election, in their day a Vice President was chosen from the field of all who run by having the second most votes.

In our day a Vice President is chosen by the Head of the ticket.

Lawyers make a living on such conundrums.

153 posted on 09/10/2009 10:26:27 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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