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To: allmendream
"It was clear that the VP is the successor of the President, the 25th clarified who came next."

Really? Strange, Have you really studied the Constitution and the history of Succession because you state such was Iron Clad yet:

The wording of this clause caused much controversy at the time it was first used. When William Henry Harrison died in office, a debate arose as to whether or not the Vice President actually becomes President, or if he would just inherit the powers, thus becoming an Acting President. Harrison's Vice President, John Tyler, believed that he had the right to become President. However, many Senators argued that he only had the right to assume the powers of the presidency long enough to call for a new election. Because the wording of the clause is so vague, it was impossible for either side to prove its point. Tyler ended up taking the Oath of Office and became President, setting a precedent that is followed to this day. Tyler's precedent made it possible for Vice Presidents Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester Arthur, Theodore Roosevelt, Calvin Coolidge, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson to ascend to the presidency (Gerald Ford took office after the passage of the Twenty-fifth Amendment).

"Joe Biden was elected VPOTUS of the USA by the electoral college. If for any reason the POTUS is deemed ineligible or unable to seve during the time Biden is VPOTUS, then Biden becomes POTUS."

"That is the direct language of the Constitution both in its original drafting, and according to the 25th Amendment."

Only problem is you choose to forget a couple of things on succession. First understand when the Supreme Court takes up a Constitutional matter they are mostly concerned with divining the intent of the original Document and the founders.

Next consider that when the Founders wrote the succession part of the Constitution they knew that the Vice President was chosen by the electors by virtue of him getting the second most votes.

Now consider that Joe Biden was not chosen by the electors as the second place guy but he was chosen by the electors based on him being on the same ticket as Obama who in fact chose Biden as his running mate. Now if such is the case then apparently a Vice President is chosen for the ticket by the head of the ticket. and in this case if the head of the ticket was ineligible then how can he legally choose a running mate?

The intent of the Founders was that a Legal Candidate be President by virtue of an election, in their day a Vice President was chosen from the field of all who run by having the second most votes.

In our day a Vice President is chosen by the Head of the ticket.

Lawyers make a living on such conundrums.

153 posted on 09/10/2009 10:26:27 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
No matter how the VP is chosen, he is still elected by the electoral college to serve the Constitutional role of VPOTUS for four years.

There is no “we was fooled/robbed so we get a do-over” provision.

Biden is the legitimate VPOTUS according to the Constitution and would serve if, for any reason, 0bama is unable to serve.

Both Article II and the 25th Amendment agree that Biden would be President if, for any reason, 0bama was unable to serve as President.

158 posted on 09/10/2009 11:39:34 AM PDT by allmendream
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