[Non-Sequitur]

Yours is a straw man argument for it rest on the presumption that everything written in the Constitution has to be defined within the Constitution. We have a right to bear arms in the second amendment but you'll not see "arms" defined anywhere within the text of the document.

Then why should we accept your definition as correct?

You lied purposely in your posting and I was calling it out. Deal with it.

Bullshit.

For the record, the father of your fourteenth amendment, John Bingham had this to say about the natural born citizen issue...

My 14th Amendment? What, it isn't yours as well?

Here's what Justice Gray had to say about 'our' 14th Amendment:

"The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: The fourteenth amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born within the territory of the United States of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States. Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States."

[Uncle Chip]

Here's what Justice Gray had to say about 'our' 14th Amendment

Justice Gray???? Wasn't he the Justice appointed to his position by that other unqualified President who was also not a natural born citizen???

[Candor7]

Still at it I see? Your problem is that you do not understand freedom, and the danger of having a national socialist dedicated to "historic justice" as a president, one with a hidden agenda.

That is the context in which you are parsing your arguments to seem as if this hinges on technical matters, when it does not

Obama is a cypher, he has no backgrond which can be accessed save for that which he has manufactured.

And he has spend over a million dollars in travel and legal fees to keep his birth records sealed. He has cauterized his school hostory all the way from grade school up to his activities in LAw School.Wo paid for his education? Why did he travel under an Indonesian passport when he went to Pakistan as a college student?

Did he apply for loans as a foreign student?

This is the context in which you make your arguments, and you act as if that context did not exist. Your perigrinations are beyond hilarious.

[El Gato]

Here's what Justice Gray had to say about 'our' 14th Amendment:

It's all very nice, but he merely restated what the 14th amendment itself says. However I don't seem to see the words "natural born" in either what Judge Gray, whoever he might be and in whatever context/case he wrote that, or in the 14th amendment itself.