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To: rocco55
Maganga’s signature appears ‘very’ neat. Almost like it could be a woman.

I noticed that too. It's actually way too neat for a man's signature.

Another thing is the dates. They're done American style, as in, MM/DD/YY. British style is DD/MM/YY. This little detail is a glaring out-point in my opinion, and casts serious doubt on the document's authenticity.

Also, would a Hospital Chief Administrator stamp and sign a document without reading it first ?

That thought occurred to me too. He didn't notice whose birth certificate copy this was before signing it? Would he really have stamped and signed it if he had noticed the name? I have my doubts.

48 posted on 09/05/2009 9:02:23 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

It takes a thief, to catch a thief.
This has been his point all along. He never hid who he was, and in fact stated that WHO he was is the only reason he could get it. He paid people off, who wanted cash. He was funded to get this information, and he paid off the people needed to get it.
So the argument that he is undependable, is specious. In fact, he was exactly the type of person needed, to get this information. Going “by the rules”, would have had unsurmountable road blocks.
Bad men, or guys who know how to “work” the system, to get what they want, don’t care about the rules, they care about results.
Now your trying to discredit the product, because of the delivery man.
Wake up people. If you discredit the document, fine. But, so far. Nobody has. Here are the facts:

* This is a typed document
Copy is issued on Feb 1, 09 by
Hilton Magonga
Chief Administrator (so should be there today)
Issued by:
Coast Province General Hospital
Mombasa British Protectoriate of Kenya
Certificate Number 32018
DOB August 4, 1961 Time: 7:42PM
Weight: 7Lbs, 1 Oz 18” Long
Mother: Stanley Ann Obama
Maiden Name: Dunham
Birthplace of Mother:
Wichita, KS, United States
Residence of Mother:
Honalulu, Hawaii, United States
Occupation of Mother: Student
Father:
Barak Hussein Obama
DOB: 1936
Birthplace of Father:
Kanyadhiang village,Kenya
Occupation of Father: Student
Attending Physician:
James O. W. Ang’Awa
Hospital Administrator:
John Kwame Odongo 8/7/1961


Here is a paper published by the Attending Physician:
http://tropej.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/pdf_extract/12/supp3/7
From the Oxford Journal
here is a link to others:
http://www.nextbio.com/b/search/author/JO%20Angawa
Cited in Google Searches as JO Angawa

This is a United Nations entry for the daughter of the doctor who is supposed to have delivered Barack Hussein Obama in Mombasa, Kenya.
Mary Atieno Ang’awa (Kenya). Place and date of birth: Mombasa, Kenya, 8 March 1954. Nationality: Kenyan.
She is now a prominent High Court Justice in Nairobi.
However, this confirms that in fact her father probably did practice in Mombasa, if she also was born there in the 1950’s. He apparently accompanied the 1978 Kenyan Team to the Olympics in Moscow (President Carter ;ead the U.S. boycott of these games).
She could easily dispel anything about this “You Tube” document.
However, this begs the question — if you have to go overseas to authentic vital records concerning POTUS because of his father, are we really talking about a ‘natural-born Citizen?’
Of course, the answer is, “No!”
I have seen questions asked, “Why Mombasa?” This is likely because Mombasa was one of the few cities at the time that recognized “plural marriages,” and by this time, Obama, Sr. was a polygamist.
There are other problems with this document, including the use of the infant footprint for newborn identification. In the U.S., the F.B.I was arguing for this practice in 1966 —
No one seems to have employed this practice in Colonial Africa — from anything that has been see, yet.
==> So we know that Angawa practiced in Mombasa, was there when Obama was born, and delivered his own daughter. He specialized in Obstetrics, and opened a clinic. It is not far fetched to believe that he helped at the hospital, many doctors work as multiple hospitals as needed.


http://allafrica.com/stories/200906180705.html
“”We are still receiving more patients from various parts of the province who have been diagnosed with the ailment. However, we are doing everything possible to provide the necessary treatment needed,” Helton Maganga, chief administrator at the Coast Provincial General Hospital, the largest referral hospital in the province, told IRIN on 18 June.”
This is June 16, 2009, so Mangana IS the Administrator of this hospital...

Lucas Smith Defense of new birth certificate by WND and Jerome Corsi...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX1DFV0hsPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCc3Axxd8kU&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdueOWxo518&NR=1

Here Lucas Smith responds to Corsi, with plausable answers


I personally wrote Smith, and got a response. In that letter, I told him that his credibility was in question, and that it appeared to many to be a scam for cash. He told me that he had a person who represented him, and gave him guidance. I suggested that his credibility would be greatly enhanced if he were to make this part of public record thru a lawyer, much like Orly Taits has done. Even if it is proven fake, its part of public record, and once there, the threats against his life, are gone. It is my hope that he listened and this is why he has put this into the legal system.
So, now the charge that he is in it for the money, is no longer valid, he has put the document into the system, where it is safe. You can get copies all over the net, and dissect it as best you can. I have been trying, and so far, nothing points out as incorrect, or implausable.
The Obamaites are hard at work tho, trying to sew seeds of doubt. So, I am going at this in this way, see what they have to say. Does what they have to stay invalidate the document? If so, what is their proof? Words are not good enough. So far, speculation, questions, nothing more. No HARD proof that the document is not genuine...


It is Obama’s being only a first generation U.S. citizen because of his father not being a United States citizen at Obama’s birth that caused his divided allegiance and loyalty at birth (United States v. British and Kenyan) and disqualifies him to be President and Commander in Chief. It is through his father that Obama was born with allegiance and loyalty to Great Britain (which continues until today), which then converted to allegiance and loyalty to Kenya. It does not matter that his mother was a United States citizen because at birth Obama inherited allegiance and loyalty to a foreign power (Great Britain) from his father just as he would have inherited allegiance and loyalty to a foreign power if born to parents who were both non-United States citizens. By Obama’s mother being a United States citizen at his birth, Obama was just spared acquiring even another foreign allegiance and loyalty. Just like a naturalized citizen who—despite taking an oath renouncing all foreign allegiances and loyalties and which incidentally Obama has never done —cannot be President because he or she is born with allegiance and loyalty to a foreign country, Obama, born with allegiance and loyalty to a foreign country, also cannot be President. All this leads to the inescapable conclusion that Obama is not an Article II “natural born Citizen” and is therefore ineligible to be President and Commander in Chief of the Military.


50 posted on 09/05/2009 9:23:01 AM PDT by etraveler13
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