I'm posting this discussion from another forum from a few years ago here for discussion and to try to get people to make a few simple preparations for WTSHTS.
More discussion in depth can be found here: Emergency Preparedness
Take care. Stay Armed. Stay Safe.
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To: dcwusmc; A Navy Vet; Jim Robinson; Jeff Head
2 posted on
08/14/2009 8:54:09 PM PDT by
Neil E. Wright
(An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
To: Neil E. Wright
I like the way the post emphasizes the need for anonymity. You really dont want to stand out if you are bugging out.
The people who didnt prepare will focus on taking the stuff for the people who did. If that happens, chances are the prepared person may have to shoot the looter. No one wants to do that if it can be helped.
They also need to realize that if things are really bad, the only people you can trust are the immediate family members who are with you, and those friends who have prepared with you.
Weve given it some thought, and if this happens there are less than eight folks in our crew. The rest are strangers and will be treated as such.
3 posted on
08/14/2009 8:59:10 PM PDT by
Armedanddangerous
(I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
To: Neil E. Wright
Well i dcould bug out but I have decided to stay and fight.
To: Neil E. Wright
6 posted on
08/14/2009 9:12:25 PM PDT by
Shadowstrike
(Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
To: Neil E. Wright
Ya know, we in the hurricane belt get annual bug out drills (although skills rapidly atrophy with a few quiet years). The other option, though, is to shelter in place. So there I was, stocking casa NVA with supplies, boarding up the windows, and wondering why the good old boys in their 4wd pickups with the mudder packages were just cruising around the neighborhood while the rest of us were busy preparing. Then it dawned on me ... they
were preparing. I was doing their prep work for them. You're gosh darn right I need an assault rifle, maybe three.
And if the strife is in the burbs, no way I'd retreat to an urban setting. Better to go rural. And stock the travel-all with exotic liqueurs (for hot fudge Tuesday and remember your Kipling). /obscure
7 posted on
08/14/2009 9:12:57 PM PDT by
NonValueAdded
(Why Does Obama Want Health Care in 4 Weeks When it Took Him 6 Months to Pick a Dog?)
To: Neil E. Wright
A dirt bike with an oversized gas tank would be a good thing to have.
9 posted on
08/14/2009 9:19:41 PM PDT by
smokingfrog
(No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
To: Neil E. Wright
>Have 2, 3, or perhaps 4 routes I would add: ensure that at least one of your alternative routes is based on the possibility that you will be bugging out ON FOOT -- due to roads either (a) blocked/jammed or (b) being watched.
Which would also necessitate you having an alternative (and much smaller) set of bug-out items, as you'd have to carry everything on your back in this scenario.
Just something to think about -- something that many people forget about when doing their planning. You may not be able to just "jump in the Jeep and go."
11 posted on
08/14/2009 9:22:30 PM PDT by
NewJerseyJoe
(Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
To: appleseed
14 posted on
08/14/2009 9:26:25 PM PDT by
FrogMom
(No such thing as an honest democrat!)
To: Neil E. Wright
I’ve given these scenarios some serious thought, and do have a crude bug-out plan in the works. Though sometimes I wonder about the involvement of the national guard in these scenarios. Most of the ‘Guard folks I know are red-blooded, freedom loving country folk, and I don’t know how many would be implicit in “rounding people up” or “watching the roads.”
16 posted on
08/14/2009 9:46:51 PM PDT by
Karma Police
(Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!!!)
To: Neil E. Wright; Travis McGee; hiredhand; Squantos; NFHale
Ive concluded that I wouldnt be able to decide what should be left at home [ I never have the right tool on hand], so I should prolly hunker down here in the sticks...
travis had a pretty good article on the bug out bag...
17 posted on
08/14/2009 9:59:30 PM PDT by
Gilbo_3
(Luke 22:36...Trust in the Lord...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
To: Neil E. Wright
The most powerful “weapon” in your arsenal should be your brain. Write down your plan, put your ego away, have your wife critique it, rewrite it, internalize it. Don’t wait until you see the signs (whether natural disaster or man-made). Act sooner rather than later. You can always make a U-turn and go home. Practice makes perfect. No practical plan will cover every contingency but having a plan is the way to train your brain to think your way out of most anything.
18 posted on
08/14/2009 10:00:35 PM PDT by
oneolcop
(Lead, Follow or Get the hell out of the way!)
To: Neil E. Wright
"If your State has license plates that bear some indication of your community or county, you might want to consider going to a junk-yard and buying a set of the local plates. If you are bugging to a different State, ditto. Do not don a business suit if you are driving in a logging type environment. Wear a flannel shirt and an old baseball hat. You will look the part and avert nervous locals to more obvious strangers."
That's a no-go, IMO. Residents of rural/frontier areas, their law enforcement agencies and National Guard units have been preparing for that possibility for some time--even with drills. Potential trespassers will be check-pointed, identified and dealt with quickly. Roads would be closed. If any would-be looters/squatters manage to get through to the private properties of residents, they'll see more trouble than if spotted sooner.
20 posted on
08/14/2009 10:01:58 PM PDT by
familyop
(cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
To: Neil E. Wright
I kind of plan to shelter in place..I can’t imagine trying to get out of town during an emergancy; all Hell would break loose.
21 posted on
08/14/2009 10:08:40 PM PDT by
LongElegantLegs
(It takes a viking to raze a village!)
To: Neil E. Wright
And BTW, my reply was to the context of, “If you have a location selected but do not own property there,” from the posted thread from “Emergency Preparedness.”
22 posted on
08/14/2009 10:08:47 PM PDT by
familyop
(cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
To: Neil E. Wright
To: Lurker
Hi Lurker,
Just thought you might want to update the "Emergency Preparedness" article.
26 posted on
08/14/2009 11:11:38 PM PDT by
Neil E. Wright
(An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
To: Neil E. Wright
Hi Tried to go to link, & it is not working. Can you provide website? Is it Univ. of Nebr Kearney?
27 posted on
08/14/2009 11:11:45 PM PDT by
Freedom56v2
("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
To: Neil E. Wright
34 posted on
08/15/2009 12:17:11 AM PDT by
JOAT
To: Neil E. Wright
They can call you and others a "right-wing" militia fanatic. I know who you are and what your position is. You fight against the ever-encroaching Federal government. I know that you believe in limited Fedgov power and lean towards States' rights.
I have enjoyed your company on many occasions at conferences and handed out our pocket-Constitutions (how simple is that?). We and other patriots have shared the same Constitutional principles we both believe in during our time at VETSCOR.
You fight against the progressive/liberal/socialist, and worst of all, the Marxism ideology that is the obambi, reid, pelosi triad ideology. They think their time has come for their "progressive" ideals. YOU and I both know such efforts have not worked and will never work. See my new tag line below.
I APPLAUD you. I will make the drive out to AZ (an open carry state), and live or die by your leadership when push comes to shove. I'm expecting it within the next (2) years, providing the US populace doesn't correct things.
I can't believe what I'm seeing happening almost daily. I grew up with the PROMISE of America, even as a punk kid.
But now I'm seeing that such promise/opportunity has taken a back seat to "equal outcome" in some misguided feely-good attempt to create UTOPIA!
Shipmate, things are coming to a head. I'm scared for the future of our Republic and the future of our children. I truly hope I die before the Republic does.
35 posted on
08/15/2009 12:49:16 AM PDT by
A Navy Vet
(Progressives are Regressive; Think Socialism Failures!)
To: Neil E. Wright
Pretty much got it all. I have a years supply of Mountain food (water is still a question). I did so for natural and man-made disasters. WTSHTFan, we're kinda there.
My biggest concern is not how soon the water or food can get back on line, it's about how the inner city folks (bad AND good) will be heading towards our area for stuff. You know where I live. If a nuke went off tomorrow in Los Angeles, the survivors would span out towards suburban and country areas, and there's where we are as you know.
My SO thinks it's all BS, except for earthquake. Funny thing is, she has asked me to keep the 870 loaded. Hmmm...
36 posted on
08/15/2009 1:05:47 AM PDT by
A Navy Vet
(Progressives are Regressive; Think Socialism Failures!)
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