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FCC to Apple: iPhone? How about MyPhone!
Reason ^ | August 7, 2009 | Peter Suderman

Posted on 08/08/2009 7:48:34 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 08/08/2009 7:48:34 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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iPhone FCC probe Ping!

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2 posted on 08/08/2009 7:50:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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i am writng this post with my jailbroken iphone - runs the Google app no problemo...


4 posted on 08/08/2009 7:54:46 PM PDT by databoss (Keep The Change....)
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Could turn into a “common carrier” issue: if AT&T is supposed to carry ANY phone conversation without regard to content, and “content” now includes data from user-chosen applications, does AT&T have any right to decide which applications may use their network? and does that right extrapolate to their partner who makes the hardware and tightly regulates the application market?

I’m thinking a creative lawyer should be able to smack down App Store restrictions: the only suppressed apps should be ones that demonstrably & technically harm the network. So long as Apple & AT&T have such a tight relationship (as to allow the latter to dictate app acceptance parameters to the former), ipso facto AT&T has no right to tell Apple to refuse apps (say, Google Voice), and so long as Apple rides the “common carrier” bandwagon they have no business limiting apps discernible only by nuanced content (vs. abusive network behavior).


5 posted on 08/08/2009 8:05:10 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Your opinion is doubleplusungoodthinkful. You have been reported to flag@whitehouse.gov.)
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i am writng this post with my jailbroken iphone - runs the Google app no problemo...

It's not a matter of the app not being able to run, it will. It's a legal matter over what Apple's contract with AT&T says they have to do with telecommunications apps.

6 posted on 08/08/2009 8:05:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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SM, is this chart
accurate? It is the most
recent I could find:



If Apple isn't
a top five player, why look
at their practices?

7 posted on 08/08/2009 8:06:07 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: ctdonath2
I’m thinking a creative lawyer should be able to smack down App Store restrictions: the only suppressed apps should be ones that demonstrably & technically harm the network. So long as Apple & AT&T have such a tight relationship (as to allow the latter to dictate app acceptance parameters to the former), ipso facto AT&T has no right to tell Apple to refuse apps (say, Google Voice), and so long as Apple rides the “common carrier” bandwagon they have no business limiting apps discernible only by nuanced content (vs. abusive network behavior).

I'm inclined to agree with your assessment.

8 posted on 08/08/2009 8:07:24 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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If Apple isn't
a top five player, why look
at their practices?

As I understand it, Apple has approximately 3% of the overall cellular phone handset market... but they have about 29% of the US Smart Phone Market and about 10% of the Worldwide Smart Phone Market.

In the overall Cellular phone market, worldwide, the iPhone is still in the "Others" wedgie.

9 posted on 08/08/2009 8:13:16 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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Apple, as proprietor of the App Store, made the formal rejection, but it's unknown if the decision was a result of pressure from iPhone carrier AT&T.

The iPhone being shackled to AT&T is the main reason I don’t have one.

I was with AT&T a few years ago and got fed up with the spotty coverage in the areas I lived and traveled.

I have never read a good explanation of Apple’s partnership with AT&T. I find it hard to understand Apple’s limiting their market share in this way.

10 posted on 08/08/2009 8:13:36 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Swordmaker
I'll vouch for its addictive niftyness, and admit that I often find myself wondering how I ever got through a day without one.

Get a life!!

11 posted on 08/08/2009 8:14:50 PM PDT by BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL (Certified Right Wing Extremist)
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Could turn into a “common carrier” issue: if AT&T is supposed to carry ANY phone conversation without regard to content, and “content” now includes data from user-chosen applications, does AT&T have any right to decide which applications may use their network? and does that right extrapolate to their partner who makes the hardware and tightly regulates the application market?
This could be fought, too, on AT&T's side by requiring regression compatibility testing (and charging developers for same) for 'foreign' apps.

And, I don't blame them. It is after all AT&T's * network infrastructure, backhaul facilities and switching systems.

*Or leased

12 posted on 08/08/2009 8:15:56 PM PDT by _Jim
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On the other hand, because of ease of use, iPhones are not accounting for 69% of all mobile phone web traffic...

iPhone share of U.S. smartphone traffic hits 69%—Fortune

13 posted on 08/08/2009 8:16:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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The iPhone is useless for texting. The virtual keyboard is impossible to use, so error prone. Perhaps a chick with small fingers can master it.


14 posted on 08/08/2009 8:18:47 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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> iPhones are no[w?] accounting for 69% of all mobile phone web traffic...

I bet Apple likes
the FCC looking in.
Free advertising.

15 posted on 08/08/2009 8:19:38 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Pontiac
I have never read a good explanation of Apple’s partnership with AT&T. I find it hard to understand Apple’s limiting their market share in this way.
And I wouldn't think that: a) the technology, e.g. any special requirements for remote updating of the iPhone's core operating firmware (STRTA OTA programming)

b) the need by Apple to spend resources to 'interface' with more than one carrier would have anything to do with it ...

/sarc

16 posted on 08/08/2009 8:21:59 PM PDT by _Jim
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I read recently that iPhones are responsible for over 70 percent of the bandwith consumed on the cellular network.


17 posted on 08/08/2009 8:22:05 PM PDT by appeal2 (Government is not the solution, it is the problem and eventually the enemy.)
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To: FreepShop1

It took me about 3 days to get used to the keyboard, but since then, no problems. I do not have dainty fingers, much to my chagrin.

My only issue with my phone is that it is much slower since the big update last month. =(


18 posted on 08/08/2009 8:22:25 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL
Get a life!!

As an Associate Editor of Reason Magazine, I suspect he has one.

I have found that the iPhone is an excellent tool to USE in my life. You should try one.

Last year, my iPhone saved me $2500 by finding an alternative source at a far lower price for a necessary product that I had little time to research or opportunity to shop for when it was absolutely necessary to buy it.

In the year since that happened, it has saved me money at least once a week, although not on that level. That is priceless utility well worth the cost of the iPhone and AT&T service.

19 posted on 08/08/2009 8:23:26 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Pontiac
I have never read a good explanation of Apple’s partnership with AT&T. I find it hard to understand Apple’s limiting their market share in this way.

The explanation is quite simple. Apple required specific equipment additions and changes in software be made to the cellular network to support the iPhone's features, such as visual voice mail. Apple approached Verizon about making such changes and was told by Verizon to take a hike... handset makers Verizon claimed should know their place. In addition, Verizon insisted on being able to sell the iPhone's features only ala-carte... so much money for visual voice mail, so much for each email, tiered pricing on data usage, you want You-Tube connectivity? It will cost you extra. Internet access? More money. With those demands, Apple went elsewhere.

AT&T agreed to do it and to sell the iPhone features as a package deal. AT&T invested over a billion dollars in upgrading their network for the iPhone features.

20 posted on 08/08/2009 8:32:34 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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