On 8/3/09 at 02:18 AM, realkenyan wrote:
I am Kenyan born and raised here. I have same type birth certificate as I born February 1961. The hospital name is the same on my certificate.
Many Kenyan at that time very limited use of English and translation was Coast General hosptial in our lanquage.
I agree Kenyan not province for 8 more months however stationary was change early and fact that that this is a copy of certificate is reason why republic of Kenya letterhead at bottom. My mother she work there at the time in office and confirm this. It say the same on mine also on my cousin born in March 1962 but get copy in 1964 just like Obama on his certificate.
Mombasa was part kenya but also othe province use name Momabasa. I tell you this name popular and also use in 3 other province.
On my cousin mine and even sister certificate is say mombasa. This is special name. Honorable name and used for our city many years before officially named. So clerk in office type Mombasa as it is symbol of our pride in Kenya nation.
My certificate end in of 41. So Am I 41 president? You make no sense.
E.F. lavender maybe detergent but also registrar. He still alive today. He live near MM Shah school. He was British immigrant when Kenya British colony. Just because man have same name as soap so he has to be same man? so if my name is hershey I am automatically the man who make hershey chocolate. You idiot man. I laugh.
Muslim or christian not important . We are british colony at time and they require list …
And this one from the same person:
On 8/3/09 at 02:22 AM, realkenyan wrote:
Finally man.
His father age is what he wrote and can be transcription error.
Why you so upset cause your president scam you. haha
Welcom have Kenyan as presdient. haha We are proud he come from here and full you into electing him.
Finally african take white man thrown hahha
Now, obviously anybody can write anything on the Internet, but the comments are interesting.
The one verifiable fact is that there is an M M Shah school in Kisumu.
The founding fathers specified the “Natural Born” Citizen requirement for the office of President for a reason. They fully understood the political intrigue of Europe and especially England as a threat to a free nation.
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“Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government. “
James Madison
It's also perfectly reasonable name --- and other people who lived in Kenya have had it, including one Edward Lavendar who was buried in 1955 in Nairobi's City Park Cemetery: http://www.eamemorials.co.uk/EAMemorials/KENYA/Nairobi%20City%20Park%20Cemetery/CityPark1171.htm
Kenya is not anything close to a ‘Muslim’ country. According to Wikipedia (I know...), it’s about 80% Christian (Protestant / Catholic).
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
Is this “realkenyan” a member of FR or did these comments come from another site ? Can’t tell if he is ‘proud’ of Obama (as he stated) or if he might be willing to cooperate by submitting his birth cert to this site or Orly. That is, assuming he is a real person. Who knows anymore ? Anyway, thanks for the post !
And thank you, markomalley, for staying on top of this issue.
In 1961 Kenya had a British administration...
1. Muslim days of the week would not have been recognized
2. Britian and British colonies were Christian and Church of England if that matters...
3. “Christian name” was common on British documents...my own “British” birth certificate notes “Christian or first names” Names were “Christian” and “surname”
4. Kenya was a Republic in 1964 when that document was issued...
The real issue is that regardless of where Obama was born, he was a British citizen at birth through his father as his citizenship was governed under the British Nationality Act of 1948. He admitted as much on his official Fight the Smears website. The question, to paraphrase from Leo Donofrio, Esq., is this: How can a natural born United States citizen be governed at birth by British/foreign citizenship law?
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