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Why controversy surrounds Obama birth certificate
Phoenix Political Buzz Examiner ^ | July 30, 2009 | Patty Kelley

Posted on 07/31/2009 4:30:00 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american

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To: the anti-liberal
Maybe he's afraid some illegal alien will steal his identity? /sarc

Not an unreasonable fear. It's possible one stole our country.

21 posted on 07/31/2009 4:55:11 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect Jim Thompson's children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: buwaya

By the way, Obama was born in 1961, NOT 1986.


22 posted on 07/31/2009 4:55:20 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: SvenMagnussen

Yes, and that case is heading for Florida.

You wrote-
“I would add to your list:

A decorated, combat experienced Army Individual Ready Reserve Officer volunteered to deploy to a war zone, but demanded the Commander in Chief demonstrate his eligibility to hold the office before he deployed. His orders were quickly canceled and his Security Clearance was suspended. (Cook v. Good)”


23 posted on 07/31/2009 4:57:47 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

Er, I don’t think I understand what you said.

The 1986 law (and the previous law as well) held that -

- If born in the US, no matter to who - Citizen, no other conditions required.

- If born outside the US to one citizen - age and residency requirements.


24 posted on 07/31/2009 4:57:59 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: real_patriotic_american
Your document might prove perjury

I think his campaign to hide his BC might prove perjury.

You could argue that he understood the law incorrectly. The fact that he hid his BC proves that he knew very well what he was doing.

25 posted on 07/31/2009 4:58:25 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
"And attorney Orly Taitz is working on Obama’s alleged 39 Social Security numbers. "

I'm sure there are a lot of 'Barack Hussein Obama's' out there in this country, so it's probably just that. /sarc

26 posted on 07/31/2009 4:59:03 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Diogenesis

I’m sure that perjury = impeachment. However, if he’s impeached, his partner Biden takes over, giving the Dems more political capital to burn. We don’t want that either do we? His controversy is starting to tear apart the Democratic party, so let’s continue to show the facts and let that happen instead, and see more success with Congress in the next two elections.


27 posted on 07/31/2009 4:59:24 PM PDT by freedomconservationist
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To: real_patriotic_american

Gee, are those 39 social security numbers the same ssn’s used by his Czars? Congress doesn’t get to meet the Czars.


28 posted on 07/31/2009 5:00:33 PM PDT by freedomconservationist
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To: Jeff Head

>I have a passport and a birth certificate.<

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But you’re not the POTUS and you’re an American. In today’s globalized political world the US must have a UN approved president. It’s now a Kenyan’s turn. Who knows who will be next — Kim Yong Il, perhaps.


29 posted on 07/31/2009 5:02:12 PM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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To: marron

I agree and the courts cannot ignore this forever.

You wrote-
“I think his campaign to hide his BC might prove perjury.

You could argue that he understood the law incorrectly. The fact that he hid his BC proves that he knew very well what he was doing.”


30 posted on 07/31/2009 5:03:05 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

Sure, but we are using the 1986 law for the purpose of its definition of the requirements for citizenship.

The previous law was the same, the differences were in its age and residency requirements in the case of foreign birth.

Which one applies ? Do these laws matter in the Constitutional test ? Are they relevant ? Nobody knows, and nobody proposing any legal theory has the authority to prevail, and certainly nobody has a good reason to get huffy about it.


31 posted on 07/31/2009 5:03:31 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

What you may have read at DU is not law.


32 posted on 07/31/2009 5:05:50 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: freedomconservationist

This Congress is not going to impeach him no matter what he does. I mean, really, that is Science Fiction.

Maybe after 2010, but even then I doubt it.


33 posted on 07/31/2009 5:06:04 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: real_patriotic_american

Also, to go with your posting, US Constitution Section 9, Clause 3 prohibits the passing of ex po facto (retroactive) laws by Congress, so the 86 law would not extend to Obama.


34 posted on 07/31/2009 5:07:25 PM PDT by freedomconservationist
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To: real_patriotic_american

I don’t read anything in DU.

On the other hand I doubt you read at all.


35 posted on 07/31/2009 5:08:17 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: philman_36

That may very well be true, and will be shown by his actions.


36 posted on 07/31/2009 5:08:21 PM PDT by freedomconservationist
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To: real_patriotic_american
This is nothing new. We've known for over a year now.


37 posted on 07/31/2009 5:10:29 PM PDT by McGruff (Where's the REAL birth certificate? - Jim Robinson)
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To: buwaya

Oh, you like to read? Read message #34 here!


38 posted on 07/31/2009 5:10:33 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

What does that have to do with this case ? Born in Hawaii means he was a citizen under the previous law as well.

And you are certainly not a “real patriotic american”. I would be ashamed to claim you as a fellow citizen, you insect.


39 posted on 07/31/2009 5:14:56 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: real_patriotic_american

There are 2 great articles on this.

American Thinker
Obama’s birth debate: It’s about loyalty
By James Lewis

AND

National Review online
Suborned in the U.S.A.
by Andrew C. McCarthy


40 posted on 07/31/2009 5:18:56 PM PDT by Linda Frances
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