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To: trumandogz

citizen at birth = natural born citizen (NBC)

The terminology citizen at birth has not been definitively determined to mean NBC as it pertains to eligibility for the president.

From the US State Dept. Foreign affairs manual in section regarding eligibility for president:

It has “never been determined definitively”..”whether a person who aquired US Citizenship by birth abroad is a natural born citizen.”

“The fact that someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not necessarily imply that he or she is such a person for constitutional purposes.”

The more I look into the legal aspects of this, the more I think the Birth Certificate may serve the same purpose as the organ grinder’s monkey - distraction.

It is very possible that Obama is not eligible simply because his father was a British citizen. I am still researching that aspect.


43 posted on 07/30/2009 2:41:21 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The Idea of the Kenyan birth is a dead end.

And until a Court rules that one must have two parents that were citizens at birth in order to be an NBC, Obama is an NBC.

And there is no way that a court, especially the SCOTUS is going to define NBC as only being persons who were born on US soil and have two US parents.

No way, not after the 14th Amendment.


44 posted on 07/30/2009 2:49:41 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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The more I look into the legal aspects of this, the more I think the Birth Certificate may serve the same purpose as the organ grinder's monkey - distraction.

It is very possible that Obama is not eligible simply because his father was a British citizen

Yep.

121 posted on 08/01/2009 11:52:46 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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