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To: real_patriotic_american

This is an important article that calls into question the journalistic credentials of the American press. It seems highly unlikely, however, that Hawaii destroyed original documents. Indeed, we know Hawaiian officials have confirmed recent access to O’s BC.

The biggest part of this shell game is that O and his operatives have convinced most of America that we have the burden of proving O is unqualified.

It is exactly the opposite, O has always had the burden of proving he is qualified.
He acknowledged that burden when he signed or arranged for his agent(s) to sign each state’s primary election certification that he was qualified/eligible for the office of the president. Such execution was made, of course, under penalty of perjury.

Later, the January 8, 2009 Joint Session of Congress was called solely for the purpose of assuring America that the election was conducted properly. O had the burden of satisfying any request by the Congress in that Session to demonstrate his citizenship (see 20th Amendment, “…if the President elect shall have failed to qualify…” as well as 3 USC 15).

Every liberal I have argued with has conceded that O was obligated to produce, or to authorize Hawaii to produce, a verifiably authentic BC if the Congress had required such prior to accepting the work of the Electoral College.

Should the Congress have requested that document? Without queston, particularly in the face of the substantial pre-election concern and outrage transmitted to Congress over the fact that there was absolutely nothing in the public record that demonstrated O was a U.S. citizen.

He may be qualified, but there is no reason to believe so and Congress had a duty to the nation to act on the issue.

Which is why I have previously stated that every single Republican in the Congress was seduced into going limp and sitting on their hands during the Session.

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9 posted on 07/25/2009 4:41:23 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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To: frog in a pot

Does the name Pelosi come to mind?

You wrote-
“........ He acknowledged that burden when he signed or arranged for his agent(s) to sign each state’s primary election certification that he was qualified/eligible for the office of the president. Such execution was made, of course, under penalty of perjury.”


11 posted on 07/25/2009 4:45:49 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: frog in a pot

Very interesting excerpt from your profile enclosed below:

1ST AMENDMENT PETITION
seeking the REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES

WHEREAS, at the time of President Obama’s birth his father was not a United States citizen and his mother was a United States citizen under 19 years of age;

WHEREAS, the relevant statute in effect throughout 1961 would not allow United States citizenship at birth to an infant born abroad with such parentage;

WHEREAS, Article II of the United States Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen;

WHEREAS, pursuant to the statute and the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, the location of President Obama’s birth is a critical element in the determination of whether he is a natural born citizen;

WHEREAS, President Obama recently represented in the case of Hollister v Soetero that he publicly provided to several internet websites a certified copy of his purported birth certificate which purportedly shows a birth in Hawaii;

WHEREAS, the document made public is a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) not an Hawaii birth Certificate; significantly, Hawaii emphasizes its COLB is not conclusive evidence of a birth in Hawaii;

WHEREAS, candidate Obama expended substantial effort and legal expense to defend multiple lawsuits, in an attempt to avoid providing the Certificate of Live Birth underlying the COLB;

WHEREAS, document examiners have identified several unmistakable defects and anomalies in the provided COLB, and conclude that it is a fabricated document, one that immediately violates state and federal felony statutes regarding fraudulent use of forged or altered identification documents;

WHEREAS, if the only assurance candidate Obama provided to state primary election officials that he was an eligible candidate was to sign state-provided certifications, under penalty of perjury, it is possible those officials were subsequently satisfied of the candidate’s eligibility by the COLB;

WHEREAS, Congress was put on notice by numerous voters and groups prior to the November 4, 2008 election of substantial concerns regarding candidate Obama’s Article II eligibility, it is possible members of Congress were satisfied of the candidate’s eligibility by the COLB;

WHEREAS, Congress convened on January 8, 2009 in a Joint Session solely for the purpose of receiving, verifying and tallying the votes of the Electoral College and accepting, or objecting to and where appropriate disqualifying those votes in accordance with 3 USC 15;

WHEREAS, Congress failed to call for objections to any Certificate of Vote presented by the Electoral College during the Joint Session in accordance with 3 USC 15;

WHEREAS, such a call would have provided an opportunity to address the issue of whether the President elect was eligible in accordance with Article II and would have been prerequisite to valid acceptance of any Certificate, nonetheless Congress accepted the votes of the Electoral College without such a call;

WHEREAS, in the face of this extraordinary controversy the citizens of the United States are entitled to know whether the President of the United States satisfies the natural born citizen requirement of Article II;

WHEREAS, the members of Congress are sworn to uphold the United States Constitution;

NOW THEREFORE, we the undersigned request that Congress establish a joint special committee to investigate the question of President Obama’s constitutional eligibility, which shall have the mandate to subpoena and examine forensically all documents, including but not limited to his original certificate of birth, bearing upon such question.

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The petition can also be found at http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/1st-amendment-petition.html


12 posted on 07/25/2009 4:50:34 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: frog in a pot
“...every single Republican in the Congress was seduced into going limp and sitting on their hands during the Session...”

A natural born citizen is a person born in a country in which both parents are citizens.

John Jay wrote a letter to George Washington (who led the Constitutional Congress) requesting that “natural born Citizen” be a requirement for anyone wanting to be President of the United States. That is why it is in there under Article 2.

The following candidates for President in 2008 were ineligible for the office:

Calera, Socialist Party - born Venezuela.
McCain, Republican Party - born city of Colon, Republic of Panama,
Obama, Democrat Party - father a British subject who registered his son as a British subject.

Note: the Senate passed a resolution stating that John McCain was a natural born citizen because both his parents were U.S. citizens. But any changes to the U.S.Constitution must be approved by a majority of the States per the U.S.Constitution. Shameful behavior on the part of Senators!

George Soros donated heavily to all three candidate. The fix seems to have been in from the start - eliminating Hillary Clinton from the running was obviously important to whoever was behind this situation.

So yes, the Republcans did nothing to challenge Obama because their candidate wasn't eligible either.

19 posted on 07/25/2009 6:08:53 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: frog in a pot; SatinDoll

John McCain’s situation as a natural born citizen was well set prior to him ever running for office way back even before the 1980s. Since McCain’s father was serving in the military and his mother also a citizen when he was born, McCain is a natural born citizen.


22 posted on 07/25/2009 7:16:31 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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