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To: greeneyes

I specifically replied to your comment about John McCain and the Panama Canal Zone, so I am not sure why you went into all this stuff about Obama, but since you did.

The info you are quoting pertains to a US citizen married to a forgein national.

Obama is an illegitamate child born to an out of wedlock mother who was a US citizen-is he not?

The 1952 law established easier requirements for a US citizen unwed mother, whose child is not born on US soil, than those you cited.

Namely that she need only have been physically present continuously in the US or a possession for 12 months prior to the child’s birth(the words “immediately prior”) are not used.

According to the US State Department, it has “never been determined definitively by court whether a person who aquired US citizenship by birth abroad is a natural born citizen “(for the purpose of presidential qualifications).

Personally, I am all for interpreting the requirement very strictly ie: Both parents are US citizens, and child is born on American soil, territories, or possessions, and subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.

As another Freeper pointed out, Congress only has the power to set up naturalization laws for citizenship. Congress did attempt to define natural born in 1790, but subsequent language in 1795 removed the term “natural born”. The “Insular Cases” also overuled the 1795 act.

The legal opinions I have read stated that this is not an issue for the Federal Courts, it is an issue for the state’s election laws, and the electors. Any role for the US congress is after the election.

Should a case actually be accepted in a State Court, it might then be appealed eventually to the SCOTUS.

Obama’s status re: constitutional requirements even if born in Hawaii, is not well defined IMHO, and even less legitimate if not born in Hawaii, since his father was not a citizen of the US.


114 posted on 07/28/2009 9:17:44 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The laws at the time of Obama’s birth state that he could not be born to parents of foreign sovereignty and still be considered a natural born American citizen. His father was Kenyan. Obama’s mother had not been in the U.S. 5 years after her 16th birthday (she couldn’t have been since she was only 18 at his birth).

When she became pregnant during the fall semster at the University of Hawaii, can you identify her location in the U.S. preceding Obama’s birth? All I’ve heard is that Obama’s grandmother was present when Obama was born in Kenya...... Then Obama’s mother showed up and enrolled at the University of Washington for the fall of 1961.


116 posted on 07/30/2009 5:07:38 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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