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To: Houghton M.

I can live with that, most kos kids don’t know which end of a gun the bullet thingee comes out of.

And our founding fathers chopped down the forest of English laws meant to enslave them.


170 posted on 07/23/2009 5:32:36 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

“And our founding fathers chopped down the forest of English laws meant to enslave them.”

You know, that’s just dumb. The entire argument of the Declaration is that England’s Constitution was being violated. They did not call for anarchy, did not chop down England’s laws. Their quarrel was with the King’s enforcement of the constitution and laws. They argued that certain laws (Stamp Act) were unjust because they violated constitutional law, no taxation without representation.

They upheld and obeyed and took for granted that English law would continue to apply. They were trained in English law, they appealed to English law. They simply argued that the present regime was not following the law and claimed standing as leaders under the laws of their colonies to dissolve their links to the King.

For you to say they chopped down England’s laws demonstrates you have no grasp of the issues involved in the question of Obama’s legitimacy.


172 posted on 07/23/2009 5:39:13 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: usmcobra

Addendum: They appealed, of course, to natural law as well as to the English Constitution, both of which they believed were being violated. But they did so on the basis of their own legitimacy as elected leaders in their colonies, not as individual citizens or as military officers in a coup d’etat. They took care to assemble a Continental Congress and to act as a body. They staked the legitimacy of their act on that.

Calling for military overthrow of an elected POTUS as an individual FR keyboard jockey is not the same thing.


173 posted on 07/23/2009 5:41:59 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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