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‘Half-Blood Prince’ is strong warm-up for finale
MSNBC ^ | July 14, 2009 | Alonso Duralde

Posted on 07/20/2009 7:29:41 AM PDT by ccmovrwc

Battling the dark forces takes a back seat to romance and Quidditch

By Alonso Duralde Film critic msnbc.com contributor updated 4:25 p.m. ET, Tues., July 14, 2009

Call it the calm before the storm, but “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” goes out of its way to balance its own dark doings — to say nothing of the dire events to come in the two upcoming movies based on “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” — with more character and atmosphere than we’ve seen in the last few movies.

If you’ve been missing Quidditch matches, love triangles, hanging out in the Gryffindor common room and general Hogwarts-iness, you’ll have a great time with this latest sequel.

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To: ConfusedAndLovingIt

They may, if he were still alive, I don’t know.

You’re right, I’m not an author, but I still think she and her staff got paid well for her books and the movie rights. I’m thinking her multi-millionaire status sort of makes it look like business.


41 posted on 07/20/2009 9:50:01 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: abner; altura; Androcles; andyssister; anonsquared; Bigs from the North; Blue Eyes; Caipirabob; ...

Movie discussion ping!


42 posted on 07/20/2009 9:51:08 AM PDT by retrokitten
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To: aft_lizard
Probably considering Rowling is a lefty ex-welfare queen.

Somehow, I imagine Rowling has already paid back more in taxes to Her Majesty's Government than she would have collected in 10,000 years of welfare.

43 posted on 07/20/2009 9:53:34 AM PDT by Sloth (The Second Amendment is the ultimate "term limit.")
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To: humblegunner

HP ping


44 posted on 07/20/2009 9:54:42 AM PDT by Allegra ( Socks)
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To: ccmovrwc

Looking forward to seeing this one.


45 posted on 07/20/2009 9:56:40 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Allegra
Will you see it when you're in London?

Let me know, and I'll see it here so we can discuss it.

46 posted on 07/20/2009 9:57:53 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: ccmovrwc

47 posted on 07/20/2009 9:58:42 AM PDT by Sloth (The Second Amendment is the ultimate "term limit.")
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To: EmilyGeiger

Hi EG!

I don’t know if I’m just getting crabby in my old age or what, but it wasn’t my favorite HP movie. I thought it’s pacing was too slow. But this wasn’t my favorite HP book either.

BUT, I agree with everyone else that Gambon’s Dumbledore was finally likable. There were quite a few sniffles in the theater at the end.

I also am looking forward to the 7th and 8th movies. Alan Rickman needs much more screen time and his part in the final movie should be excellent.

Also, there is a preview for “Where the Wild Things Are” before HP. I don’t know why, but there is something so moving about seeing those characters on screen for me.


48 posted on 07/20/2009 10:00:10 AM PDT by retrokitten
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To: benjibrowder
Not quite Lady Thatcher...

funny pictures
moar funny pictures

49 posted on 07/20/2009 10:00:19 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: humblegunner; wazoo1031
Yes, it's playing at the Odeon...about two blocks from my hotel. (Yikes - I've got to book that sucker. I keep forgetting.)

We plan to see it. I'm sure my sister will be drooling over Alan Rickman and all.

50 posted on 07/20/2009 10:01:26 AM PDT by Allegra ( Socks)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It deviates from the book in multiple ways, but that's pretty unavoidable.

I agree that some deviations are necessary. I didn't understand the scene with Bellatrix and Fenrir Greyback attacking the Burrow, though. What do you suppose was the point of that?

51 posted on 07/20/2009 10:19:26 AM PDT by ccmovrwc
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To: ConfusedAndLovingIt

Speaking of Orson Scott Card, what books would you recommend for a new reader of his works? Thanks!


52 posted on 07/20/2009 10:19:27 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Aren't you hopey-changers embarassed by B.O. YET?)
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To: ccmovrwc

53 posted on 07/20/2009 10:21:05 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: alwaysconservative

SPOILER ALERT:

I enjoyed the movie. The omissions and changes that irritate me are the ones that change important sub plots.

There was supposed to be a wizard battle in Hogwarts, between the dark wizards and Dumbledore’s Amry, summoned by Harry with the coin, though only a handful show up (Luna, Ginnie, Neville, Ron, Hermione, I think). It’s a bummer we didn’t see that.

We also completed missed that there is a new Minister of Magic, and that Harry is already on-the-outs with he new minister.

Most importantly, plotwise, to me, on the omission of #12 Grimwald (and “Creature”) belonging to Harry. This affects the main plot line of the horcruxes, the fake locket, the real locket and R.A.B.

My “guess” is that the funeral for Dumbledore will happend at the beginning of the next movie.

Oh, yeah... It’s be hard to start #7 where it normally would, at the Burrough during Bill and Fleur’s wedding, on account of they blew up the Burrough and have completely skipped Bill and Fleur altogether so far.

It doesn’t make sense for the powerful protections around the burrough to fail because of the fall of the Ministry, if it never really had any protection at all.

Nonetheless, I really enjoyed the movie.

I am also very academically interested in what completely fabricated non-Rowling story inventions they will have to concoct in order to repair the violated plotlines. Arguably, the only one that -must- be repaired is #12 Grimwald and Creature. However, the transition to the fall of the Minsitry will have to be changed a bit.


54 posted on 07/20/2009 10:34:54 AM PDT by Miykayl
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To: ccmovrwc
I didn't understand the scene with Bellatrix and Fenrir Greyback attacking the Burrow, though. What do you suppose was the point of that?

I wondered about that, too. Perhaps, since Hedwig was in the house at the time, that's how they are going to take care of her departure?

55 posted on 07/20/2009 10:35:02 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I'm the one Janet warned you about)
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To: ccmovrwc

I thought it did an excellent job streamlining the important events from the books, taking some liberties with the order of events in order to tell a story on the screen. It didn’t feel rushed, nor did I really miss any of the excised material (except no Dursleys... *sigh*).

To me, the only jarring thing was the “reveal” at the end about Snape being the Half-Blood Prince. Maybe they plan on pushing that into the first half of #7, but I think they could have spared one minute to go into Snape’s background a little bit more, as it’s an important clue into his character and motivations.


56 posted on 07/20/2009 10:35:54 AM PDT by kevkrom
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To: ccmovrwc
Here's my wild-ass guess --

A lot of movies are pitched at children (or adults) with a mental age of 8. Some folks in the audience haven't read the book, didn't pay attention to the first 6 scenes of the movie, and haven't decided yet if Harry Potter is supposed to be the good guy or not. So, the director has to "help these viewers" along. How to do so?

Have the Death Eaters show up at someone's house and set the whole thing on fire for no reason at all. This establishes that the Weasleys are good people being victimized by bad people. And it establishes that the Death Eaters are (wait for it...) actually bad guys.

I'm sure I'm over-stating this, but I swear some directors really try too hard to make sure everyone "gets it".

57 posted on 07/20/2009 10:37:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't believe anything anyone says about anything anymore.)
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To: Texan Tory

“Regarding Dumbledore, Michael Gambon has not been nearly as good of a Dumbledore as Richard Harris...until this movie. I had always felt a little sorry for Michael Gambon having to follow up on the excellent Richard Harris, it wasn’t Gambon’s fault that Harris was so much better. In this movie, for the first time, I thought, wow, I really like this Dumbledore as much as the first one.”

I respect Gambon, he is a good actor.

However, if he had been stuck playing the same “lame” Dumbledore as he did in #3, there might very well have been cheering at the climax of this movie instead of grief.

Hats off to Gambon and the director.

I am grateful I did not have to cheer at Astronomy Tower Scene.


58 posted on 07/20/2009 10:39:31 AM PDT by Miykayl
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To: Tax-chick; ccmovrwc
>cryptic writing

There is a cool blog
called "Twilight Language" full of
cryptic writing, but

not about "Twilight."
But vampire baseball fans have
lots of their own sites:


59 posted on 07/20/2009 10:39:53 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: ccmovrwc
I agree that some deviations are necessary. I didn't understand the scene with Bellatrix and Fenrir Greyback attacking the Burrow, though. What do you suppose was the point of that?

1. It give Bellatrix more screen time. Always a good thing, as she's delightfully fun to dislike.

2. It emphasizes once again Harry's rashness and the ease in which he can be lured into a trap. So little of this movie is about Harry, it's nice to have that point hammered home.

3. It shows that no-one, not even the Weasleys, are safe from the Death Eaters at large. They cut a lot of the material in the book about students whose families are suffering under the attacks, so this illustrates the issue without the distractions from the main storyline.

4. To a lesser extent, it reinforces the whole harry/Ginny thing in that it's not just one-sided from Harry's side.

60 posted on 07/20/2009 10:40:35 AM PDT by kevkrom
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