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Sugar Substitutes: Healthy or Deadly?
www.cbn.com ^ | July 17, 2009 | Gailon Totheroh

Posted on 07/18/2009 7:54:31 AM PDT by Publius804

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To: Tax-chick

Fireflies are poisonous? I had no idea.


41 posted on 07/18/2009 9:31:43 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

To dragons. Eat one, and they drop dead. I don’t know if they’d kill humans, though: I’ve never been that hungry.


42 posted on 07/18/2009 9:33:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I can do it, it can't be that hard!)
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To: Tax-chick

We don’t have dragons in my yard. The dogs keep them away.


43 posted on 07/18/2009 9:35:09 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Publius804

OMG, what a boatload of crapola!!! We went through this BS with saccharine, (Sweet and Low), aspartane (Equal) and pretty much every other artificial sweetener that is made.

When study “results” like this are released, you ALWAYS have to look at who commissioned the “study”. Usually the “results” support the position of the group or comapny that paid for them.

Every single study with these “results” have been proven to be flawed or manipulated to obtain the desired results. Nothing to see here, folks, move along.


44 posted on 07/18/2009 9:38:10 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Bassfire

Stevia. I have used it for a loooong time. I have not cooked with it either. Always have some on me for ice tea in restaurants.

It comes from a South American tree that means “honey leaves”. It is all natural. NO worries. I have been using it since I had gestational diabetes with my now 16 year old daughter. The rest of my family uses real sugar.


45 posted on 07/18/2009 9:42:44 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Publius804

Aspartame - History of fraud and deception
by Dr. Joseph Mercola
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/health/conspiracy/aspartamefraud.html

Aspartame & Flying
The Incredible Untold Story
http://www.aspartamesafety.com/Article4.htm

Google: Aspartame and Pilots (over 50,000 hits)


46 posted on 07/18/2009 9:46:02 AM PDT by anonsquared (Jim Thompson made me do it!)
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To: TruthConquers
It is all natural.

So are hemlock, belladonna, and digitalis. (And fireflies.)

47 posted on 07/18/2009 9:56:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I can do it, it can't be that hard!)
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To: trisham

Our dog can’t be bothered.


48 posted on 07/18/2009 9:57:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I can do it, it can't be that hard!)
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To: Tax-chick

And dragons?


49 posted on 07/18/2009 9:57:19 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

You don’t want to eat dragons - too spiky.


50 posted on 07/18/2009 9:57:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If I can do it, it can't be that hard!)
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To: Publius804
I heard all this about aspartame 25 years ago from the daughter of one of the scientists that developed it. Haven't touched the stuff since. It's incredibly bad. I won't do any artificial sweeteners as things cooked up in lab...yeah, I just know too many scientists.

About a year and a half ago I got into using strictly all natural foods and it does make a difference. It's not hard to cut out the crap and stick to fruits, veggies, decent bread (it does freeze nicely), real milk cheese, bone-in chicken, etc. You really do feel much better.

51 posted on 07/18/2009 9:58:57 AM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: Tax-chick
Our dogs are extremely curious and rather territorial. Chunga caught a chipmunk once, but he didn't know what to do with it, and was simply holding it in his mouth. My husband held out his hand and told him to drop it, which he did, and Mr. T put it outside the fence. Chunga appeared to be relieved.
52 posted on 07/18/2009 10:00:18 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Tax-chick

I’ve heard they’re hot. :)


53 posted on 07/18/2009 10:00:47 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TruthConquers

Real sugar is a natural product. It is grown and harvested just like other natural products and that is why I prefer it to all sugar substitutes. Although I do use real sugar very sparingly in whatever I eat and drink.

But as I said before I certainly see the need for sugar substitutes of some kind for those who suffer from diabetes.


54 posted on 07/18/2009 10:04:11 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: JavaJumpy
OK, so you’re a scientist who takes every word literally and I’m not. Got me there - hahahahahaha!

Failing to take words literally when talking about real things is what gets people doing such things as believing that eating loads of asparagus will cure cancer (1) or believing that bovine growth hormones could have have a hormonal effect on their children's bodies and buying ridiculously expensive milk to avoid a non-existent problem (2) or believing that "organic" fertilizers are "better" than inorganic ones and buying more expensive foods that are no more nutritious and no safer than others (3). But taking advantage of others' ignorance and appealing to their fear and pride have always been good means of acquiring revenue and power (look no farther than global warming/CO2 regulation to see the most successful of all such scams).

1. A long circulating anonymous email touting the amazing discovery by someone supposed to be a dentist.

2. Quadruped mammalian growth hormones cannot dock with primate growth hormone receptors, though primate growth hormones can stimulate growth in other mammals.

3. Plants absorb only inorganic fertilizers; the crap or other 'organic fertilizer' have to be broken down by bacteria in the soil into their inorganic constituents before the plants can use them. It's better to directly control the amounts and relative proportions of the inorganics from the start.
55 posted on 07/18/2009 10:58:18 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: grey_whiskers
...but Sears is a legitimate PhD biochemist.

There are loads of PhD biochemists who regularly support nonsense like this to protect the flow of grant money. Sears has a bad habit of making claims and then not bothering to support them. IIRC, Michael Jacobson at CSPI is also a PhD. They belong together.

56 posted on 07/18/2009 11:33:53 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: goodwithagun
If you check out the American Diabetic Assoc., their studies have found that fake sugar makes people gain weight. And they used to push the fake stuff all the time.

These sweeteners were first developed for diabetics. The Claim that artificial sweeteners cause weight gain must be made by people who don't understand the complex chemistry of satiation. They suggest that the taste function can control or influence the amount of calories that go into our bodies. This is not how the body is set up and contradicts what we've learned about hunger and satiation. These people seem to believe that the body's genetic structure can be overridden.

These kinds of claims may be good for obtaining grant money but they don't make a lot of sense to people that believe research should be concerned with finding the truth rather than funding.

57 posted on 07/18/2009 11:38:55 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Ev Reeman
But it is my belief that the chemicals in sugar substitutes may cause cancer and other health problems. I much prefer natural foods whenever possible

Natural foods don't contain the same compounds found in aspartame? You sure about that?

58 posted on 07/18/2009 11:45:51 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Desdemona
I heard all this about aspartame 25 years ago from the daughter of one of the scientists that developed it. Haven't touched the stuff since. It's incredibly bad.

Aspartame is made up of three components that are bound together: Phenylalanine, aspartic acid and methanol. Phenylalanine is found in most protein rich foods. Aspartic acid is found in fruits and vegetables. Methanol is common in fruit juice and red wine. So, according to you, consuming a steak with a baked potato and green beans, and downing it with a glass of red wine, is akin to poisoning yourself.

Doesn't make much sense to me.

59 posted on 07/18/2009 11:58:06 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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.......Methanol is common in fruit juice and red wine......

You are in error. First, methanol is a liquid, not a solid. It is not found in red wine, that is ethanol.

Methanol is commonly known as wood alcohol and is sometimes used denature or make ethanol undrinkable.


60 posted on 07/18/2009 12:07:02 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war in Detriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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