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Excerpt: Dr. Orly Taitz, attorney for Alan Keyes in Keyes vs. Obama, announced late this evening that a judge has ruled in favor of Mr Keyes' request for a trial to discover whether or not Obama is an American citizen and, as such, entitled to be President of the United States of America.

Excerpt: Bottom line? Whether one is a 'birther' or a 'believer,' this case will definitely be worth watching!

1 posted on 07/14/2009 6:16:26 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: LucyT

PING!


2 posted on 07/14/2009 6:19:05 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

U.S. District Judge David O. Carter:

He was a Marine! Who received the Bronze Star and Purple Heart.

From Wiki:

“Carter is a “Double Bruin,” having received both his bachelor’s degree (B.A. 1967) and his law degree (J.D. 1972) from the University of California, Los Angeles. Carter graduated cum laude and was a candidate for the prestigious Rhodes Scholarship in 1967.

After graduating from college, Carter enlisted in the United States Marine Corps. He was promptly dispatched into service in Vietnam during the Vietnam War where he fought in the Battle of Khe Sahn in 1968. Carter was released as a First Lieutenant following his service in Vietnam. His military awards and decorations include a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart.”

This could be interesting!


3 posted on 07/14/2009 6:21:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: real_patriotic_american
I don't care if the judge is a believer or birther. I just want the judge to follow the rule of law as found in the Constitution and then let the chips fall where they may. obama has some ‘spaining to do and, at this point, I think Biden would be a better President than obama.
5 posted on 07/14/2009 6:22:54 AM PDT by GBA
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To: real_patriotic_american
Semper Fi, Judge.

Be sure to look all six ways before crossing the street.
16 posted on 07/14/2009 6:37:16 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Williams/Sowell 2012 -or- Sowell/Williams 2012)
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To: real_patriotic_american

My attitude with this one is wait and see.

Obama’s lawyers havent kicked in yet.
Will he try to block it? Will he succeed?
Will the case be heard impartially?


19 posted on 07/14/2009 6:42:37 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: real_patriotic_american
Birther or believer?

How about just doing his JOB?

36 posted on 07/14/2009 7:21:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: real_patriotic_american
I suggest that you watch fast. As you are no doubt aware, the Supreme Court has unanimously voted not to hear further cases of this nature, based as they are on nothing but inflammatory rhetoric. Since the President has already provided proof of citizenship to the courts, and the Supreme Court has affirmed that certification, this is nothing more than a nuisance lawsuit.Whatever decision this particular judge makes is moot, the question is settled.
39 posted on 07/14/2009 7:33:02 AM PDT by KMar20009
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To: real_patriotic_american
"At last count, at least 17 lawsuits had been filed in 17 different states questioning Barack Obama's status as an American citizen and his right to prop his feet up on the desk in the Oval Office."

In the case of Republicans, Sarah Palin most recently, the mere existence of multiple complaints is evidence enough that something is wrong.

But then, that's Republicans, as far as those filling the jobs formerly held by journalists are concerned.

48 posted on 07/14/2009 7:48:14 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: real_patriotic_american
People don't you get it?

The real goal of all these Obama eligibility lawsuits is not to throw President Obama out of office before the 2012 presidential elections, although it would be great if just one of these lawsuits unexpectedly caused President Obama to resign.

1. To me, the true goal is to make it so uncomfortable and exhausting for Obama---as he faces lawsuit after lawsuit day after day during the final 3 years of his presidency---that Obama will have no choice but to decline to run for office again in 2012.

2. Myself, I don't have any hope that this judge will help the anti-Obama people in this lawsuit, because I don't see the Los Angeles judge doing anything different than other judges have done before him on this Obama eligibility mess: He will probably find a legal reason for dismissing the lawsuit.

3. But the judge's expected decision in favor of Obama doesn't really matter, because our goal is to keep putting pressure on Obama over and over again about this eligibility issue during the next 3 years right up to the 2012 presidential primaries and further.

4. Guess what. When Obama runs for office in the 2011-2012 right up to the Democratic Convention in 2012, he will have to run just like any other candidate who runs for President of the United States, that is, he will not have special treatment just because he happens to be President of the United States.

5.He will no doubt face question after question about where he was born and about why he won't release his college records.

6. But this second time around will much different for the community organizer-state senator than the first time he ran for president in 2008.

7. That is, he won't get a free pass as to his eligibility status.

8. For instance, there is a good chance that Obama will have to face even more and more court challenges to his eligibility status during the campaign of 2012.

9. But this time during the 2011-2012 campaign, Obama could be so EXHAUSTED from facing today's lawsuits day after day, he might NOT have any stomach or energy left to face more eligibility lawsuits if he decides to run again.

10. And if I am not mistaken, it will be Obama the private citizen who will have to fight those many eligibility lawsuits that Obama will no doubt face if he decides to run in the 2011-2012 primaries.

Again, fighting such lawsuits could cost Obama million, although I bet Obama would receive financial help from his rich democratic party friends.

11. My point is this: I believe that the Los Angeles judge will find some legal reason why he will dismiss the Obama eligibility lawsuit like the other judges before him have done.

12. But it doesn't matter, because our real objective is to keep putting pressure on Obama day after day with new lawsuits during Obama's first term over the next 3 years so that Obama will not have the energy, the finances, nor the stomach to face even more eligibility lawsuits and questions about where he was born and about his college records.

13. If I were Obama, I would be a little frightened by the thought that I will have to fight numerous lawsuits over and over again during the 2012 presidential again that question my eligibility to be President of the United States.

14. And remember, the eligibility lawsuits of the 2012 presidential campaign will be much more sophisticated than the lawsuits of today, because the lawsuits of 2012 will have learned from the mistakes of the eligibility lawsuits that will be filed during Obama's presidency of 2009-2012.

15. Again, I expect the Los Angeles judge to quickly dismiss this lawsuit like other judges have dismissed Obama eligibility lawsuits in the past.

62 posted on 07/14/2009 8:25:56 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: real_patriotic_american
Hawaii race classification in 1961.

A poster over at World Net Daily found Hawaii government information from way back in 1961 in which Hawaii explained how it classified race and ethnic groups.

Below is an excerpt from that Hawaii government information.

I'm not sure what it means, but the classification of "African" as is found on the Obama Hawaii birth certificate that we see on the internet is NOT found in the Hawaii government classification.

*****

Race and color

Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."

The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father.

The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian.

In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used.

Completeness of birth registration in 1961 for "white" births is estimated to be 99.3 percent and for "nonwhite" births, 96.6 percent.

The most recent figures for other groups are from the 1950 test which indicated registration completeness at that time to be 85.1 percent for American Indians and 97.4 percent for ''other races," chiefly Chinese and Japanese.

Both figures are probably higher for 1961, but more precise estimates are not available.

A comparison of the race designation in matched sets of birth certificates and census records from the 1950 registration completeness'test indicates very high agreement for white persons and Negroes. There were, however, substantially fewer American Indians recorded on birth records than on census records.

83 posted on 07/14/2009 9:37:58 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: real_patriotic_american

So is the left freaking out yet this morning over te news? :>


88 posted on 07/14/2009 10:09:11 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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