[TypeZoNegative]

"Thanks for the vid, heh, heh! Now google a vid that shows what happens when a crab is being crunched alive by an octopus or wolf eel. Not a pretty sight." Tu quoque, strawman and naturalistic fallacy. You are not an octopus nor a wolf eel. You fail 3 times. "OTOH steamed crabs know neither fear nor pain." Neither does any other dead animal. However, living ones that are being steamed to death do feel excruciating pain. "“Hitler was a nonsmoking teetotalling vegetarian”" 1. Hitler was not a vegetarian nor was he teatotalling. Much like every other socialist, he was a hypocrite. He ate meat and he was hopped up on speed every day. 2. Even if he was, you're using 1 example of a hypocritical vegetarian to make a blanket statement about all vegetarians. Try harder.

[elcid1970]

OK, I’ll concede your point that Hitler only cultivated an image as a pure ascetic who abstained from meat, alcohol, and tobacco in order magnify his Fuehrer mystique. Good historical lesson there. I had read Life magazines from the time and they were far too willing to take Nazi sources at face value.

But you now seem to be saying that only octopi and wolf eels have license to nosh on sentient living crabs simply because they’re animals and we’re not.

Arguments for veganism are usually advanced on both moral and pragmatic grounds. But what turns off most non-vegans is the overarching moral superiority claimed by vegans over meat eaters.

All I know is, is that crabs, like other animals were given unto Man for his nourishment and humane use. That alone is probably enough to send any vegan into orbit.

Oh.... I failed three times? Sure am glad I’m not the defendant in your courtroom.

;^)