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L.A. teenager who flew single-engine plane across the country lands in Compton
Los Angeles Times / latimes.com ^
| July 12, 2009
| My-Thuan Tran
Posted on 07/12/2009 10:56:26 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Niteflyr
You are correct.
The hype of this story is unbelievable and demonstrates clearly how little the public knows about flying in general, let alone what happens in the cockpit.
Little girl sits in front seat and has access to the controls, stop-the-presses!
This is a nonsense story from the git-go.
(Thanks for your informed comments).
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posted on
07/12/2009 1:38:10 PM PDT
by
Hulka
To: Hulka
This is a nonsense story from the git-go. (Thanks for your informed comments). Yep...and hopefully I've learned a few things in my 40 years as a pilot and A&P mechanic...;o)
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posted on
07/12/2009 1:40:35 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: Hulka
I know that, I was simply repeating the terminology from the article in order to not confuse the non-pilot posters. A lot of people have trouble understanding that a student pilot situation is very different from a student driver situation.
In an aircraft, the instructor always has complete control (potentially). If the student is skilled, the instructor might not touch the controls at all, and a non-pilot might think of them as a "safety pilot". With a less skilled student, the instructor may do most of the flying. It is typical for an instructor to put hands on at critical moments.
83
posted on
07/12/2009 1:41:49 PM PDT
by
3niner
(When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
To: US_MilitaryRules
Amazing that the writer went to collage to become a journalist. COLLEGE, not COLLAGE!
84
posted on
07/12/2009 1:46:14 PM PDT
by
GoodDay
(Palin for POTUS 2012)
To: 3niner
Understood. . .no harm done, as you were surely helpful to many. I should have been more understanding.
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posted on
07/12/2009 1:47:38 PM PDT
by
Hulka
To: 3niner
In an aircraft, the instructor always has complete control (potentially). If the student is skilled, the instructor might not touch the controls at all, and a non-pilot might think of them as a "safety pilot". With a less skilled student, the instructor may do most of the flying. It is typical for an instructor to put hands on at critical moments.Exactly right....and I don't know if I'd even call someone a "safety pilot" at all in the situtation . I might do some instrument approaches on the hood with another pilot in the right seat and refer to him as a "safety pilot" (which makes two certified pilots in the airplane)...and there is always at any given moment only one pilot in command and it can never be an un-certified person, no matter how young or slick they are on the stick .
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posted on
07/12/2009 1:47:42 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: Hulka
Little girl sits in front seat and has access to the controls, stop-the-presses!That's pretty much it...
87
posted on
07/12/2009 1:55:02 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: thecodont
Later, the plane was found sitting on blocks with the battery and the stereo missing.
88
posted on
07/12/2009 1:58:17 PM PDT
by
Nachoman
(Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
To: 3niner
A young pilot may actually do all of the flying, but the safety pilot is prepared to take control at any moment. Never heard the term 'safety pilot'.
To: Niteflyr
Exactly correct, and her “safety pilot” would have to be a current flight instructor or she couldn’t log a minute of time. Assuming she was with an instructor she could log dual instruction received. If Mr. safety wasn’t an instructor, they broke a whole buncha regs....
90
posted on
07/12/2009 2:00:08 PM PDT
by
PilotDave
(America; nice while it lasted... I miss it already.)
To: PilotDave
Exactly correct, and her safety pilot would have to be a current flight instructor or she couldnt log a minute of time. Assuming she was with an instructor she could log dual instruction received. If Mr. safety wasnt an instructor, they broke a whole buncha regs....Yeah...so true...they didn't say if the actual pilot was a CFI or not. If not it's all a cutsy story until while handling the controls the "non-pilot" does something the legal pilot in command can't correct. Either way his ass is in serious trouble, and he is totally responsible and legally liable. Legal dual instruction is one thing...a non-CFI letting a non-pilot fly the airplane is something else...
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:09:43 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: ColdWater
Never heard the term 'safety pilot'. Kind of a euphemism...but certainly not a rating!!...:o)
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:13:56 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: Nachoman
Later, the plane was found sitting on blocks with the battery and the stereo missing. In Compton? It could happen!! LOL!
93
posted on
07/12/2009 2:16:10 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: PilotDave
If Mr. safety wasnt an instructor, they broke a whole buncha regs....I can imagine the court transcript now...pilot:"my 15 year old neighbor's daughter was in control of the aircraft at the time of the accident." FAA: "Are you and were you current as a CFI and giving dual instruction at the time?" pilot: "well er no....private SEL only but were were trying to get this on the nightly news..." (the FAA just loves that sort of thing)...
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:26:20 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: Hulka
Yup. . .my son held the stick when he was 4-yrs old. Barely reached the stick being strapped in and all that, but he held the stick, nonetheless. Doesnt that count for something. . . ?I started flying with my dad very young ...started lessons at 16 and soloed in 8 hours....the press was no where around during any of that....I feel so cheated!!!
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:30:28 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: 3niner
Then it is exactly true when I say a person of 12 years, or younger, can fly a plane with someone else at the dual controls? The fact is, you, and all the other idiots posting against me, didn’t comprehend what I wrote! I was all for young pilots and against the restrictions we have against young drivers, period.
96
posted on
07/12/2009 2:31:44 PM PDT
by
calex59
To: Niteflyr
started lessons at 16 and soloed in 8 hoursSolo meaning all by myself...and I don't think the term safety pilot had even been invented yet...LOL!
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:33:26 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: calex59
Then it is exactly true when I say a person of 12 years, or younger, can fly a plane with someone else at the dual controls? That is a correct statement..
Signed "one of the idiots"...:o)
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posted on
07/12/2009 2:35:24 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: Niteflyr
That is a correct statement.. that is providing that other person is certified to be doing what they are in the process of doing...
99
posted on
07/12/2009 2:37:37 PM PDT
by
Niteflyr
("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
To: calex59
"
They always get it backwards." That's what makes them Dems!
100
posted on
07/12/2009 2:40:19 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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