Posted on 07/10/2009 3:22:39 PM PDT by rxsid
“It is very, very difficult to prove a negative”
People say that, but it’s done all the time. For instance, when defendants give alibis. “I didn’t kill him. I was watching a movie at the time. Here’s my ticket stub.”
There are two ways to prove the negative in Obama’s case. One, if you demonstrate his having been born elswhere. Two, if he is unable to comply when he’s compelled to provide evidence of his having been born here.
Can you please direct me to the text of the lawsuit?
Wow. Thanks for finding that.
This is interesting, thanks for the link.
It is a better action than CDR Fitzpatrick’s case in that this officer is active duty outbound under orders to a warzone (do we still have those?).
It is also an extremely dangerous action by the officer.
He is saying by what authority am I going?
The response ultimately will be “By the President’s authority”.
He will then likely argue it is not possible for Obama to be the President.
The response will be, “Wrong, the Congress said he was the President.”
The issue will be to what extent can he challenge that action by the Congress?
“Wise” people tell me its a done deal, that there is no Constitutional means of challenging the President in this regard.
I disagree and ask: If the Electoral College votes for Mickey Mouse and the Congress certifies that vote, is the nation bound by that action?
In the alternative, if the burglar makes a clean get away does he no longer have any criminal liability?
Or, if one achieves an office through a fraud that is later discovered does he nonetheless retain the office?
Bingo your #37!
Stefan is definitely a good man...godspeed!
Therein lies the issue, IMO, as to why nobody in a position of power to address this Constitutional crisis will do so. (fear).
Bump
Interesting how you creeps ooze out of thew woodwork when Dr. Taitz issues another suit challenge. Coward that your messiah is, he will never allow any case to get to discovery phase if his federal oligarchs can prevent it. And if one ever does, he will resign forthwith because he is a criminal fraud and proven liar/perjurer.
I think it's a horrible precedent that a person can be elected POTUS without satisfying some diminimus objective standard for proving natural born citizenship, and I think it's equally bad precedent that nobody in the whole damn country has standing to challenge it.
If this lawsuit can force The One to prove his place of birth, than we all win. If it establishes standing to challenge our leaders' in court, we all win.
Good luck!
If this is true B.Husain should be removed from office however isn't there some provision that a sitting president cannot be sued until after they leave office? I'm no lawyer so I'm asking this as a serious question. If that is the case than it sets up a catch-22. There can't be a discovery phase until after B. Hussain is out of office. Could someone with a background in constitutional law enlighten me.
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Leni
If I had sons, I'd discourage them from joining the military, much as I was proud to be in under Reagan. It's just not safe anymore. I predict this guy and his cast of amateurs will get us into a major conflict before he leaves and once the troops are committed he'll pull the plug on them (think Vietnam).
Everytime I see the half muslim pretender I weep for our country.
Hopefully, Orly Taitz will be able to mention that from within Obama’s own family, he has been born at 3 different hospitals.
“...a person can be elected POTUS without satisfying some diminimus objective standard for proving natural born citizenship...”
You may be aware that our Congress on January 8, 2009 absolutely could have demanded that O provide proof of his eligibility, in which event he was obligated to provide verifiable proof if he wanted to sit as President.
The Congress with full notice of the controversy sat on its hands, failed to request the proof, and he sits.
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