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MAJOR STEFAN FREDERICK COOK v [et. al] (RE: Obama eligibility - Dr. Taitz)
7/10/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 07/10/2009 3:22:39 PM PDT by rxsid

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To: mono

“It is very, very difficult to prove a negative”

People say that, but it’s done all the time. For instance, when defendants give alibis. “I didn’t kill him. I was watching a movie at the time. Here’s my ticket stub.”

There are two ways to prove the negative in Obama’s case. One, if you demonstrate his having been born elswhere. Two, if he is unable to comply when he’s compelled to provide evidence of his having been born here.


41 posted on 07/10/2009 4:59:39 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: flash2368

Can you please direct me to the text of the lawsuit?


42 posted on 07/10/2009 5:02:12 PM PDT by Marie
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To: flash2368

Wow. Thanks for finding that.


43 posted on 07/10/2009 5:02:16 PM PDT by FreeManWhoCan ("Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.")
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To: rxsid

This is interesting, thanks for the link.

It is a better action than CDR Fitzpatrick’s case in that this officer is active duty outbound under orders to a warzone (do we still have those?).

It is also an extremely dangerous action by the officer.

He is saying by what authority am I going?
The response ultimately will be “By the President’s authority”.
He will then likely argue it is not possible for Obama to be the President.
The response will be, “Wrong, the Congress said he was the President.”
The issue will be to what extent can he challenge that action by the Congress?
“Wise” people tell me its a done deal, that there is no Constitutional means of challenging the President in this regard.

I disagree and ask: If the Electoral College votes for Mickey Mouse and the Congress certifies that vote, is the nation bound by that action?
In the alternative, if the burglar makes a clean get away does he no longer have any criminal liability?
Or, if one achieves an office through a fraud that is later discovered does he nonetheless retain the office?


44 posted on 07/10/2009 5:03:21 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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To: flash2368

Bingo your #37!


45 posted on 07/10/2009 5:06:33 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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To: seekthetruth

Stefan is definitely a good man...godspeed!


46 posted on 07/10/2009 5:16:38 PM PDT by surfer
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To: flash2368
(I think the use of 39 different social security numbers would put most anyone behind bars?)


47 posted on 07/10/2009 5:16:58 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante (Congress: When a handful of evil morons just isn't enough)
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To: Costumed Vigilante

Therein lies the issue, IMO, as to why nobody in a position of power to address this Constitutional crisis will do so. (fear).


48 posted on 07/10/2009 5:22:08 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: rxsid

Bump


49 posted on 07/10/2009 5:33:17 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Riodacat
Well, obamanoid, one thing you can stake your miserable life on, your affirmative action fraud-in-chief will not counter sue a single soul for bringing the charges because he cannot afford to go through the discovery phase for bringing evidence forward under subpoena.

Interesting how you creeps ooze out of thew woodwork when Dr. Taitz issues another suit challenge. Coward that your messiah is, he will never allow any case to get to discovery phase if his federal oligarchs can prevent it. And if one ever does, he will resign forthwith because he is a criminal fraud and proven liar/perjurer.

50 posted on 07/10/2009 5:37:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: rxsid
Hey I wish the Major luck.

I think it's a horrible precedent that a person can be elected POTUS without satisfying some diminimus objective standard for proving natural born citizenship, and I think it's equally bad precedent that nobody in the whole damn country has standing to challenge it.

If this lawsuit can force The One to prove his place of birth, than we all win. If it establishes standing to challenge our leaders' in court, we all win.

Good luck!

51 posted on 07/10/2009 5:53:12 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: MHGinTN
Coward that your messiah is, he will never allow any case to get to discovery phase if his federal oligarchs can prevent it. And if one ever does, he will resign forthwith because he is a criminal fraud and proven liar/perjurer.

If this is true B.Husain should be removed from office however isn't there some provision that a sitting president cannot be sued until after they leave office? I'm no lawyer so I'm asking this as a serious question. If that is the case than it sets up a catch-22. There can't be a discovery phase until after B. Hussain is out of office. Could someone with a background in constitutional law enlighten me.

52 posted on 07/10/2009 5:57:33 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: YankeeReb
Paula Jones sued the sinkEmperor while he was still infesting the Oval Office and diddling the poor Lewinsky girl. And I stated Barry will not sue others because he cannot stand the discovery phase, which quite different from someone suing the affirmative action figure while he holds office illegitimately.
53 posted on 07/10/2009 6:06:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: seekthetruth

B U M P


54 posted on 07/10/2009 6:08:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: rxsid

bfl


55 posted on 07/10/2009 6:17:19 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: rxsid
Major Cook is a freeper.

Leni

56 posted on 07/10/2009 6:20:02 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Please Don't Tell Obama What Comes After a Trillion!)
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To: MHGinTN
I wish Major Cook well however B. Hussain is "too big to fail" and has many vested interests protecting him from any kind of investigation. Unfortunately we're stuck with him for the next 42 months. The MSM will make sure the issue about his birth certificate, multiple SSNs questionable residences and college records stay in the blogosphere.

If I had sons, I'd discourage them from joining the military, much as I was proud to be in under Reagan. It's just not safe anymore. I predict this guy and his cast of amateurs will get us into a major conflict before he leaves and once the troops are committed he'll pull the plug on them (think Vietnam).

Everytime I see the half muslim pretender I weep for our country.

57 posted on 07/10/2009 6:20:33 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: rxsid

Hopefully, Orly Taitz will be able to mention that from within Obama’s own family, he has been born at 3 different hospitals.


58 posted on 07/10/2009 6:22:02 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: americanophile

“...a person can be elected POTUS without satisfying some diminimus objective standard for proving natural born citizenship...”

You may be aware that our Congress on January 8, 2009 absolutely could have demanded that O provide proof of his eligibility, in which event he was obligated to provide verifiable proof if he wanted to sit as President.

The Congress with full notice of the controversy sat on its hands, failed to request the proof, and he sits.
(see my About Page for details.)


59 posted on 07/10/2009 6:23:08 PM PDT by frog in a pot (It's a myth, folks. The frog will jump out and he will be pi$$ed. Ever had big warts?)
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To: YankeeReb
"Unfortunately we're stuck with him for the next 42 months." You may be pleasantly surprised before the summer is out then. ;^)
60 posted on 07/10/2009 6:27:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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