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MAJOR STEFAN FREDERICK COOK v [et. al] (RE: Obama eligibility - Dr. Taitz)
7/10/2009
| rxsid
Posted on 07/10/2009 3:22:39 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: blackbart.223
And it has been going on for centuries. Quote from Jefferson:
“To constrain the brute force of the people, the European governments deem it necessary to keep them down by hard labor, poverty and ignorance, and to take from them, as from bees, so much of their earnings, as that unremitting labor shall be necessary to obtain a sufficient surplus to sustain a scanty and miserable life.” —Thomas Jefferson to William Johnson, 1823.
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posted on
07/10/2009 11:13:11 PM PDT
by
tuckrdout
("Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson)
To: patriot08
HOW does the sob get away with this?Maybe having secret White House Independence Day parties with a secret list of presstitutes sworn to secrecy helps...
When you have the media in your pocket, you control what 'is' and what 'isn't'.
Maybe that is what Clinton was talking about...
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posted on
07/10/2009 11:17:59 PM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
To: rxsid
Go Major Cook! This is exactly what the legal system is meant for and thanks for your service.
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posted on
07/10/2009 11:31:55 PM PDT
by
TheThinker
(America doesn't have a president. It has a usurper.)
To: flash2368
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posted on
07/10/2009 11:42:12 PM PDT
by
MeekMom
(http://www.bible.ca/indexsalvation.htm)
To: rxsid
145
posted on
07/11/2009 12:04:43 AM PDT
by
NellieMae
(Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
To: Kolokotronis
The validity of your observation is more of an indictment of how far we have allowed the government to be perverted from the founding principles than the truth (or nonsense) of the complaint.
It also demonstrates that we have been lazy and irresponsible in protecting our freedoms and holding our "public servants" accountable.
Major Cook is a patriot in the truest sense: He is laying his and his family's well being on the line to keep his oath.
The enemy does not like this.
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posted on
07/11/2009 12:37:21 AM PDT
by
plsjr
(<>< ... reality always gets the last vote.)
To: Osnome
For whatever reason/rationale/excuse, no one in media anywhere wants to touch this. Yet it sits there like a piece of dung in the punch bowl. But no one dares call attention to it lest they be the ones scorned by the DBM.
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posted on
07/11/2009 12:52:51 AM PDT
by
dcwusmc
(We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
To: rxsid
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posted on
07/11/2009 2:44:53 AM PDT
by
Dajjal
(Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
To: GovernmentShrinker
I gather you didn't read my earlier post. There is an unambiguous definition cited by the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in a case from 1815, The Venus.
http://supreme.justia.com/us/12/253/case.html Read it yourself. The term “Natives” or “Indigines” is synonymous with natural born. The equivalence was cited by John Bingham, 14th Amendment author, during the amendment process in his speech to Congress, and is in the Congressional Record. The equivalence is also cited in the work cited by John Marshall as the most important legal reference to the founders, The Law of Nations. The definition has been used and repeated many times, including by Patrick Leahy, et. al. in Senate Res. 511 of 2008. So, while you've heard many make the statement “...there is no constitutional language”, that is not true. The term is used and the definition from Law of Nations referred to at least as early after Washington's insertion of Article II Section 1, in The Venus. It is about as well defined as "terms-of-art" get, just not used as often as some others like "equal protection." But you will find, if you are interested, a number of cases where it has been used: Wong Kim Ark, Minor v. Happersett, ...
To: Armygoz
Welcome to FR. It might be better to learn the local culture and build a reputation before trying to oppose that culture.
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posted on
07/11/2009 3:27:07 AM PDT
by
hocndoc
(http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
To: xzins
“Does the military oath requirement rise to the level of standing?”
My quick opinion is no. I believe the courts have reasoned that because the various plaintiffs didn’t sue prior to Obama’s nomination, they have waived any right they might have to raise the ART. II Sec. 1 issue and thus have no standing. The military oath wouldn’t change that.
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posted on
07/11/2009 4:17:42 AM PDT
by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: xzins
I meant to add, I wonder if in any event the courts should intrude into the command structure and process in the military as a matter of policy? Should a service member be able to go into court for extraordinary relief in the form of an injunction against the enforcement of an order? What about going in simply for relief like a declaratory judgment on the validity of any random order? I hope the answer is no.
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posted on
07/11/2009 4:22:25 AM PDT
by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: frog in a pot
I disagree and ask: If the Electoral College votes for Mickey Mouse and the Congress certifies that vote, is the nation bound by that action?Yes, we are stuck with Mickey as Pres until he is properly replaced. The Major is a Bozo I'm afraid.
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posted on
07/11/2009 4:32:05 AM PDT
by
jimfree
(Freep and ye shall find!)
To: flash2368
http://americangrandjury.org/
Not only that, Orly also recommend that we all become a Grand Jury ourselves, so that we can follow Lt. Commander Fitzpatrick’s example, I have, so we can keep the “pressure cooker” going 24/7/365!!!
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posted on
07/11/2009 4:47:58 AM PDT
by
danamco
To: blueyon
Thank God Dr. Taitz has the balls to pursue this eligibility issue. I am behind her 100%. Words???
You can prove this by Orly's recommendation to be a Grand Jury yourself and follow Lt. Commander Fitzpatrick's example, see post #154!!!
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posted on
07/11/2009 4:55:18 AM PDT
by
danamco
To: seekthetruth
Good morning, and thanks for the FReepmail.
Hope to see you soon.
5.56mm
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posted on
07/11/2009 5:00:32 AM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: rxsid
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posted on
07/11/2009 5:32:47 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Make things as simple as possible, but not simpler."--- Einstein)
To: Kolokotronis; jude24; P-Marlowe
Should a service member be able to go into court for extraordinary relief in the form of an injunction against the enforcement of an order?
One aspect of every briefing given every member of the military is that one must always disobey an unlawful order. That's codified, but one also must be damned sure about it before one pulls that rabbit out of a hat. The consequences of a misread would be prison.
That's within the military system, however. One doesn't take even that to a civilian court. At the same time, there are many issues (divorce, for example) that JAG doesn't handle, which, when they arise, the military member is pointed to a civil court.
Questioning the legitimacy of an order from the Commander in Chief would seem to me to fall into the military court system and not the civil...IF this non-lawyer were asked to guess.
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posted on
07/11/2009 6:04:59 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who ask Him for help.)
To: xzins
“Questioning the legitimacy of an order from the Commander in Chief would seem to me to fall into the military court system and not the civil...IF this non-lawyer were asked to guess.”
I’d say you’re doing just fine for a non-lawyer, Padre! I’d also say that this major has gotten some very, very bad legal advice. My gut says he’s being used to advance a losing political agenda. I say that for a couple of reasons. First, in light of the past decisions, the case doesn’t pass the milk through the nose test and second, despite the fact that it hasn’t a chance of success, it is nevertheless a frontal assault on the command structure. The involvement of the courts in the military is necessarily destructive of military discipline. One would hope a major would have more concern for proper discipline. A lawyer with a political agenda, or the agenda driven paymaster(s) of such lawyer, wouldn’t let that stop them.
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posted on
07/11/2009 6:41:36 AM PDT
by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: All
"With a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor."
God protect you, Major Cook. You have my deep respect, support and thanks.
Leni
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posted on
07/11/2009 7:00:57 AM PDT
by
MinuteGal
(Please Don't Tell Obama What Comes After a Trillion!)
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