Where's the birth certificate? An interview with Joseph Farah

Orlando Republican Examiner ^ | July 6, 2009 | Blas Padrino

[MHGinTN]

Because of the business interests to prevent race riots by the thuggery who support the obamanaiton, the federal oligarchy refuses to grant standing to anyone to challenge the obamessiah, hence there will be no court case allowed to interfer with the bastards reign. If you cannot find a judge willing to allow the discovery phase of a court case, you will never get the evidence into a case regardless of how convincing it is! The only way is for someone or org to so insult this bastard and his goons that a crime is committed and/or a suit from his side pushes this into court ... which of course he and the powers that be will not allow until a perfect forgery is available for the court case. THAT is why this long stall, to allow the forgery to be fabricated and ‘aged’ properly.

[Star Traveler]

You said — We will keep the heat on! With proof of the COLB being a forgery, how can they not subpoena the original birth certificate?

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Well, I tend to agree with that other poster, since what has happened, all along since before the election, shows that no court is going to do anything about it. Now, others say that this is because there’s some collusion going on, or a conspiracy among the “officials” (any level of government) in order to block this from happening.

However, I think it’s because of a loophole being in the Constitution, in that there is no particular “mechanism” specified for “proving” that one is complying with that particular Constitutional requirement.

THUS, that means that a simple signed statement by the campaign and the candidate suffices for the “legality” of being qualified. That’s what is turned into the Secretaries of State of the various states.

What needs to be done, in order to close up that loophole, is to have the various states enact laws that *require* a candidate to provide the specified kind of proof — or else — they cannot be placed on the ballot and they cannot have any votes recorded for them, and/or they cannot have any Electoral College votes from that state.

That’s what is needed to close up this loophole. And it’s been around for quite a while, as another president in the past, got away with this very same thing and wasn’t qualified, either. So, it’s *not* a new thing... that just now came from Obama...

[Dan Middleton]

"that one would have to conclude that the posters who post about that very same issue here on Free Republic were damaging their own credibility about ten times over"

Mmmmmayyyyybe...

[Star Traveler]

Shhh... don’t let anyone see this... LOL...

[real_patriotic_american]

I believe that Obama’s COLB is a forgery. Forging this document is a felony. His original birth certificate could very well prove a number of additional felonies and crimes. The authorities cannot ignore this issue forever.

I don’t believe that there will be significant race riots when Obama is removed from office.

[Star Traveler]

Okay, following up on the pterodactyls comment...

You were saying — No, once a person claims that there are pterodactyls flying over our heads, I discount everything they say afterwords

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I searched and found an article from Joseph Farah in the Commentary section of his news site, explaining why he personally believed in “Creation” as opposed to “Evolution”.

Since that is the only place I could find a single comment in the entire archive of years of articles, I assume it *must be* — this one article that you’re referring to, that has caused you to dismiss everything else written over the years...

Why I believe in Creation
Commentary by Joseph Farah
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=28069

And the *one line* that speaks of it, is the following — “There are also countless contemporary sightings of what appear to be pterodactyls in Asia and Africa.”

I see that he’s stating that there are reports of these sightings in Asia and Africa. I have to thank you for referring me to this, because I had not been aware of those “contemporary sightings”... that’s something *new* to me, and I would certainly like to follow up on that one.

HOWEVER, that being said (in that apparently some sightings do exist) — it *seems* to me that your objection is probably related to Farah’s enthusiastic support for CREATION as opposed to Evolution. And therefore, you think you must dismiss all the years and years of archived material and all the conservative issues on the basis of this one article, which mentions “pterodactyls” in one sentence.

Now, *that* (that kind of “dismissal* just by itself) is quite amazing. I would imagine that by now, you’ve completely eliminated all other news sources that exist in the world, using this kind of criteria. In fact, I’m wondering why you’re still reading Free Republic... LOL...

[ex-Texan]

Actually, I believe 0 will soon introduce an Amendment to the Constitution. It will permit residents who have been here for 20 years to be eligible to run for the presidency. Such a revision would allow native Austrian Arnold Schwarzenegger to claim the presidency. Thus completing the secret agenda of Europeans who think they own the U.S.

I have heard rumors about this for months . . .

Video Comment: Send In the Clowns !

With the power of the sleazy alphabet networks behind him such an amendment might have a chance. It would also work to quiet the controversy over 0's forged B.C.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc: fundamentally flawed reasoning wins again. Even though it is not logical:

Schwarzenegger would have no objections -- 'Nicht Wahr, Herr Arnold?'

[Star Traveler]

You were saying — I thought that Farah was going to interview him and then cover it soon (???????).

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Ummm..., well, it didn’t exactly turn out that way. Right off the bat, I could see that this eBay seller of “Obama’s birth certificate” for an online auction was something that was *extremely prone* to *fraud*. And they guy (actually a girl, I believe) wouldn’t give enough information about it, wouldn’t present even a low resolution scan of it and wouldn’t let anyone examine it *prior* to bidding on it, only saying that the winning bidder could view it, outdoors, in a public place, on some steps of a government building (and have an “expert” with the buyer, if they wanted) — and decide *on the spot* whether to “pay off” or not.

Well..., the whole thing *screamed* of *fraud* right off the bat, and even the bids themselves seemed to be fraud.

To make a long story, short, the eBay seller was found to be somewhat “insane” (by what was reported by some FReepers in what they discovered, somewhat dangerous (criminal record) and by association with those fact, must be perpetrating a fraud.

BUT..., the clincher (at least for me) was when the hoaxster said that they were giving up on auctioning it off, and they were going to send it to WorldNetDaily for them to examine.

WELL..., that was *excellent news* to me, because that meant we would find out, in short order, whether this was a fraud or not — simply (at the first step of the process) as to whether the eBay seller *actually* did send it.

He never sent it... and so his hoax was exposed.

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This was almost like chief editor Korir, over at API (African Press International) who said, before the election that he had Michelle Obama on tape (on the phone) admitting that her husband was born in Kenya. And he was going to send this to Fox News to expose Obama to the world before the election.

Well, he never sent it either — but — Korir dragged this thing on and on and on, for so long, with all his “stories” that he managed to keep the fraud going until Obama’s inauguration... LOL... just because people *continued to be gullible* and continued believing his lies and fraudulent statements.

And we still see this in operation today, as many here on Free Republic were believing that this eBay scammer “must be for real” (being gullible...) and so, those people are apparently *wide-open* for more of these frauds and scams on this issue. They *want it* so badly that they will accept virtually anything.

In fact, I remember reading one poster saying that it probably took an *insane person* to be able to get this Obama birth certificate, since others had failed. They figured that being insane helped this person in getting it... :-)

And so it goes on...

[MHGinTN]

You are witnessing the effect of fear driving political life ... when the economy (and therefore the people) become so devastated that someone other thna Bush will be blamed by the fifth column enemedia, THEN the lying affirmative action bastard can be removed from office but not before. Even ACORN will not turn out to burn things down for their affirmative action messiah if he is seen by the public as the reason America is in the toilet. Sadly, our enemies foreign will have done a significant number on us and the world by the time Obama’s stupid enemies domestic supporters wise up to the impending doom.

[Sola Veritas]

“I think this issue with the birth certificate is an unnecessary distraction. I think people should either put up or shut up.”

You assertion is assinine. How can those seeking a real “birth certificate” ....”put up or shut up.” Only President Obama can end this by producing the BC. Why is he hiding it? It is perfectly correct to continue to put pressure on him to produce it.

Could the time be better spent? That is a matter of opinion. Personally, I think time putting pressure on President Obama to produce a BC is well spent. However, I don’t think that one should exclusively focus on just that.

[Polarik]

OMG!! I want to puke my guts out! I can't stand his self-aggrandizing anymore. Farah did jacksh*t to dissuade people from voting for McCain as he wanted Obama to win.

Yes, that is correct. He WANTED OBAMA TO WIN so that the GOP could reorganize and take gain control of Congress.

Then, instead of listening to people tell him just how bad was Obama, me included, he wrote this long, detailed article called, “Just how bad is John McCain?” on which he bashed the living Hell out of him.

THEN, back in August of last year, Farah starts a new campaign called, “NONE OF THE ABOVE,” when he urged his readers to not vote for anyone for President.

Meanwhile, he, personally, did absolutely nothing about the birth certificate issue. WND carried the Jay McKinnon fiasco back in July of last year ONLY because WND reprints stories from Israel Insider (which they no longer do) the Insider carried the two stories about McKinnon. They also carried the TechDude debacle as well.

Meanwhile, did all I could to get Farah interested in the birth certificate issue. but he told me that he was not going to carry any more stories about it because Jersome Corsi had gone to Kenya and came back with nothing to show for his troubles.

Now, however, he's revised history by claiming that he was involved in the BC issue from the time Corsi went to Kenya. Not true. Bob Unruh had to convinced Farah to let him write an article about Phil Berg's lawsuit. At that time, however, Farah was convinced that Berg was off on another 9/11 conspiracy witch hunt, and wasn't interested.

Farah was convinced that the Certification of Live Birth posted online was legit — and, even today, he still thinks it's legit:

“I have never challenged the certification of live birth as a forgery.”

It was only after Keyes brought his lawsuit that Farah showed any real interest in featuring the storyline.

However, he now gives the impression that he's been there all along. He's gone completely bonkers with it, now, taking credit that doesn't belong to him wherever he can.

Way to go, Joe!

[M. Espinola]

The rat burned it.

[real_patriotic_american]

We’ll have to keep the heat on, spread the word, and then it will be time for the 2010 mid-terms where we take back the House and Senate.

[1951Boomer]

“I don’t believe that there will be significant race riots when Obama is removed from office”

No, there would be significant applause.

[pissant]

Walking and chewing gum.

[real_patriotic_american]

“I don’t believe that there will be significant race riots when Obama is removed from office”

You wrote: “No, there would be significant applause.”

I’ll 2nd that!

[wintertime]

no relative, no family friend has come forward to say
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To me this is the strongest indication that something is wrong here. Not even one citizen has come forward to testify that they visited the mom and baby in the hospital or soon after he was brought home from the hospital.

Does that sound normal?

Yet...The grandparents had very established jobs and a business. No employee or friend saw this mom and baby? No one purchased a gift?

Unbelievable! Obama was hatched from an egg, born into a very dysfunctional and isolated family, or he wasn't born in Hawaii.

[real_patriotic_american]

Yes, his article is very convincing. With all the media and paparazzi, they could come up with many witnesses and stories. It all spells: “born in Kenya.”

Your post - “no relative, no family friend has come forward to say
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To me this is the strongest indication that something is wrong here. Not even one citizen has come forward to testify that they visited the mom and baby in the hospital or soon after he was brought home from the hospital.

Does that sound normal?

Yet...The grandparents had very established jobs and a business. No employee or friend saw this mom and baby? No one purchased a gift?

Unbelievable! Obama was hatched from an egg, born into a very dysfunctional and isolated family, or he wasn’t born in Hawaii.”

[Mr. Wright]

Don't get caught up in terminology used by the State-run
media. The riots are not “race” riots, they are “black” riots, refer to them correctly. Use of the term “race” riots
may improperly imply that the rioting is done by any of a number of races: black; white; Hispanic; Asian; etc.

[ckilmer]

A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The American Thinker explains here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. There is evidence to suggest that the home named in the newspaper archived article as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by a couple not Obama's parents. Even the Honalulu Advertiser has a different address of record for Obama's father than the one listed newspaper birth listing.

Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511

Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008. Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information.