The latest on eBay's 'Kenyan birth certificate'

wnd ^ | July 01, 2009 9:11 pm Eastern | Bob Unruh

[Red Steel]

Now it's an autographed photograph for sale

The eBay auction seller who has tried multiple times to sell an allegedly genuine copy of Barack Obama's 'birth certificate' from Mombasa, Kenya, now is offering for sale a photograph of several individuals who reportedly contributed to the strategy through which the still-unproven documented was obtained.

And the seller, identified as "colmado_naranja," who claims to have obtained the document while traveling Africa, suggested more information will be revealed on a YouTube video that is planned.

"My user name is InspectorSmith. I've had the account for some time. I have never uploaded anything. ... So this will be the first time that I've ever uploaded anything. So you'll get your document yet, up close and personal," the seller wrote on the latest eBay posting.

The seller explained previously that Kenyans had boasted Barack Obama II was born in the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961, which correlates to speculation that has existed over the president's birthplace since even prior to his election.

n each of the seller's first four attempts at auctioning the "evidence" of the claim, which would presumably render Obama ineligible to serve as president for violating the "natural born citizen" clause, colmado_naranja offered the purported Kenyan birth certificate that "proved" the story.

[1_Rain_Drop]

Thanks for the heads up.

Hopefully this will be the last we hear about him.

[Plummz]

I referred to the Malcolm X story as disinformation. The July 18 story is new to me.

I agree the father listed on the original 1961 birth record, should be the one to determine his potential legal natural-born status, regardless of its accuracy. Given FMD’s history, however, I would call Barry a “natural-born UnAmerican” (cf HUAC, FBI) due to his FMD blood.

What would be interesting in his genuine Hawaii birth record file would be to see if the named father was switched to FMD some time in the early 1970s, and then switched back to Obama Sr in time to get foreign-student aid from Occidental. Apparently it was very easy to “persuade” Hawaiian judges to amend a birth record.

I doubt that there is an “adoption birth certificate” in Hawaii files for Barry. Maybe there is in Indonesia. Stanley was not a stickler for such rules, and it wouldn’t have been necessary for them to undergo a legal adoption process in Hawaii.

[Plummz]

She was enrolled at U-Hawaii in fall 1960. This has been verified by the U Hawaii registrar.

[Gemsbok]

So are you speculating they used the Lefforge address because they had a baby born that day? That would be interesting to find out about. but more likely it was the assurity of a leftist connection that would provide cover or at least prove to be bribeable if questions came up.

I don’t know aout you all and your childhood memories. Or how stable or permanently located you were as kids. But at 5-7 years old, I would remember specificallly if a very black man with ‘a deep melodic voice with a British accent’ had moved in next door with a young white girl and a black baby. I bet the Lefforge kids are igcognito. No way was BHO living in the shack behind the main house.

[Fred Nerks]

She was enrolled at U-Hawaii in fall 1960. This has been verified by the U Hawaii registrar.

I question the validity of a scanned image - that's probably just as 'real' as the 'certification of live birth' and the 'birth announcement'. I do not find that letter hard proof of anything, nor conclusive.

Only one person maintains to have seen Stanley Ann Dunham in Hawaii during that period in 1960, and that's Neil Abercrombie. FWIW.

Stanley Ann was also 'accepted to attend the University of Chicago' according to 'Dreams' - The University where her uncle, Charles T Payne was assistant director of the University Library in 1960 until 1992, when obama himself taught there.

[Plummz]

So, you think Devvy Kidd is lying? Did you call Mr. Stuart Lau, the U Hawaii registrar to tell him Ms. Kidd has forged his signature?

Do you question the validity of every image that doesn’t fit in with your preconceived notion?

Are you sure Barry was at his inauguration in January? The images on teevee could have been CGI, you know...

[Fred Nerks]

Save your indignation. I'm an Australian. And YOUR president was sworn in, in PRIVATE! You don't even know what name was used at the swearing in.

[Fred Nerks]

So are you speculating they used the Lefforge address because they had a baby born that day?

I think you are confusing the tale told by Eleanor Nordyke - about giving birth to twins on the same day - with the following:

In 1961 the Dunhams lived on Kamehameha Avenue, while Obama Sr. lived on 11th Avenue. The Lefforge family, including their 3 children under the age of seven were residing at the luxury home listed on Obama’s newly found birth announcement — 6085 Kalanianaole Highway.

There's no connection.

Satin Doll, that's why I asked you to supply links and sources with your comments. See what you started? When you wrote about the Lefforge family...and suggested they had a newborn...their three children were under the age of seven in 1960!

[Gemsbok]

Aussie, you are on a roll tonight.

That captioned photograph is so apropos!

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Agreed, using another’s announcement with their address and swapping the name would leave an over obvious trail. The only other answer is this: The well to do Lefforge family of 5 living in a 3 bedroom home with 3 young children decided to show mercy on the fellow travelers who were on their way to be counted for the census.

When the Lefforges laid eyes on the young pregnant bride and her pious and dutiful husband they decided to make room at their home to provide shelter for the newlyweds. Young Mary, I mean Stanley, “found harbor at the Inn-de-Lefforge.” The Lefforges moved their children into a shared room and the 25 year old Kenyan man and his bonnie blossoming teenage bride from Kansas shared the third bedroom. When, alas, the child was born,...many visitors, wise men from the University, and adoring friends of the Dunhams flocked to the home to pay tribute. Others from around the area read the announcement sin the local papers and sent flowers, gifts, and baby toys for the young one and the new family.

[Fred Nerks]

...many visitors, wise men from the University, and adoring friends of the Dunhams flocked to the home to pay tribute. Others from around the area read the announcement sin the local papers and sent flowers, gifts, and baby toys for the young one and the new family.

...and frankinsence and myhrr...and when Mrs Lefforge opened the door, she said 'who are all the gifts and flowers for?'

'For the baby born to Mr and Mrs Obama, we read it in the birth announcements...and followed the (Honolulu Star Bulletin) star to your door...'

ROFLMBO!

[Plummz]

You forgot to answer any of the questions posed. Please clarify.

[Fred Nerks]

You forgot to answer any of the questions posed. Please clarify.

You didn't ask questions, you tried to put words in my mouth:

So, you think Devvy Kidd is lying? Did you call Mr. Stuart Lau, the U Hawaii registrar to tell him Ms. Kidd has forged his signature?

Do you question the validity of every image that doesn’t fit in with your preconceived notion?

Are you sure Barry was at his inauguration in January? The images on teevee could have been CGI, you know...

What I wrote was:

I question the validity of a scanned image - that's probably just as 'real' as the 'certification of live birth' and the 'birth announcement'. I do not find that letter hard proof of anything, nor conclusive.

[MHGinTN]

We have asshats sounding like fruit that have been at FR as long as I have ... some fools just love to insult fellow freepers, even if they reside in Australia. ;^)

[Plummz]

Why are you refusing to answer these simple questions? This seems an admission of how shaky and ludicrous your Malcolm X theory is. You need to man up and take responsibility for spreading this misinformation. Your intransigence is quickly sliding you into the disinformation category.

[Fred Nerks]

If you read #170 again, you will find what I posted is the headline to an article that appeared on the website:

http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-obama-the-secret-son-of

If you find the question IS OBAMA THE SON OF MALCOLM X?(that is the HEADLINE) so objectionable, write to them.

The son of Frank Marshall Davis just might find YOUR contention objectionable.

[Cymraeg]

You imply that since the Lafforges owned the home in question, they lived there. Did you ever hear of people who own a house renting it to others? I doubt that the Obamas would have had the money to meet the then current minimum down payment of 20% plus closing costs to purchase a house. Plus Sr. was looking at Harvard, so it would not make sense to buy a house and then shortly thereafter move to Massachusetts.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2283836/posts?page=77#77

excerpts:

In 1961 the Dunhams lived on Kamehameha Avenue, while Obama Sr. lived on 11th Avenue. The Lefforge family, including their 3 children under the age of seven were residing at the luxury home listed on Obama’s newly found birth announcement — 6085 Kalanianaole Highway.

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Arakaki told Baro’s investigators she had no recollection of Obama being born or of the family living next door having a black child born to a white mother.

According to Baro’s affidavit, Beatrice Arakaki affirmed she was a neighbor of the address listed. She has lived at her current residence of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 to the present.

FURTHERMORE:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2150358/replies?c=5

[Fred Nerks]

Chief Engineer, although you didn’t always provide links, you certainly were thorough:

June 28,2008

Thelma Young, 91, of Honolulu died. She was born in Trenton, N.J. (nee Jones) She is survived by son Daniel Lefforge, daughters Andrea Harper and Mia Blake, three grandchildren and a great-grandchild. Private services.

Even trying to find information for the children as been frustrating! Birthdates for them are as follows:
Andrea 3/15/55
Mia 1959
Daniel 1960

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2150358/replies?c=5

[Plummz]

This is correct. Frank Marshall Davis had another son, Mark. Mark had military training in disinformation and psychological operations. He also bears some resemblance to Barry.

Mark often trolls the Internet, looking for websites about his father. Whenever he finds one that points out Frank Marshall Davis was a treasonous, Communist, un-American scumbag who knocked up an underage girl; Mark logs on to the site and posts complaints and disinformation.