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Mac threads resemble DU.
Blue Highway ^ | 7/01/09 | Blue Highway

Posted on 07/01/2009 2:14:14 PM PDT by Blue Highway

It seems like every time I venture into an Apple thread here on FR, it's similar to venturing over into Democratic Underground territory.

Personal attacks abound especially if you start criticizing Apple products or other Apple users for being naive into thinking Apple is everything their clever marketing department represents it to be.

It seems like the Mac ping list alerts the faithful flock to defend Apple to the death and that is when the claws come out and it starts to get ugly.


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To: Blue Highway; Swordmaker

Cool! 300+ posts! This MUST be the Longest Mac-war Thread Ever!

By the way, I was reply #300... Don’t I get a toaster or something for that accomplishment? :-)


301 posted on 07/02/2009 8:02:52 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Swordmaker

I’m sorry. I think my observation was too caustic and too personal.

Best Regards,
CL


302 posted on 07/02/2009 8:30:03 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: Swordmaker
Swordmaker, I enjoy being on your ping list. I respect your opinion, but if it was me I wouldn't let myself get dragged into the OP’s nonsense in the future.
303 posted on 07/02/2009 8:36:30 AM PDT by Mediocrates (Nullius in verba)
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To: DainBramage
Dell. Really?

So I guess loyalty and honor mean nothing to you. You fanny around with your Dell tramp while a tragically mutilated G4 suffers the humiliation of hinge therapy as she wonders if you'll ever return.

Maybe the Dell would enjoy a nice trip TO ARGENTINA!!!

304 posted on 07/02/2009 8:56:02 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Nervous Tick
It wasn’t Apple hardware or software that was responsible for my transition away from Mac. It was the simple realities of the industry segment I serve: EDA, test and measurement software, process control, and the like. Apple never went down this road, and I never left it. That’s really all there is to it.
Yes, but would that have been an issue if Apple had been using Intel chips and Unix- with the concurrent ability to run Windows? It seems to me that in such case you wouldn't have felt compelled to switch.

My opinion is that computers are going to continue getting physically smaller and electronically bigger - and that they are eventually going to become verbal. You'll talk to them, and they'll talk to you.


305 posted on 07/02/2009 9:02:00 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: null and void

fyi ping


306 posted on 07/02/2009 9:15:34 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (*Tolerant* isn't a position, it's how you treat people who hold positions you hate....Doug TenNepal)
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To: Nervous Tick

Just curious. Were you working with National Instruments?


307 posted on 07/02/2009 9:16:42 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

>> Yes, but would that have been an issue if Apple had been using Intel chips and Unix- with the concurrent ability to run Windows? It seems to me that in such case you wouldn’t have felt compelled to switch.

Maybe. But it’s not merely a case of chosen platform; it’s also a case of strategy, support and market savvy on the part of the platform vendor. It was just never there from Apple for industrial applications.

Side comment: many PC advocates, including some on this thread, speak of the advantages of “open architecture” — you can roll your own hardware, customize as you like. No one yet has spoken of the parallel advantage of “open market strategy”, so I’ll mention it here. When the Apple platform was closed, and Apple controlled the game, you were at their mercy as far as what markets they deemed strategically important. Whereas anyone could adopt the Wintel architecture, “roll their own” strategy, and attack any market they chose to attack without foot-dragging or resistance from the hardware platform maker.

Apple made feeble attempts to embrace the industrial market, even as far back as the late ‘80s and early ‘90s. I still have an old Apple-logoed tradeshow sweatshirt from the ‘80s for “Autofact”, a factory automation show. I was in the Apple booth with another vendor. We were fish out of water — very “ronery” during that show.

In spite of Apple’s meager support, in various companies I have pushed Macs into industrial applications with success. The hardware and software are up to the job.

But, Apple saw profitability in K-12, desktop publishing, and the corporate desktop — not in industrial applications. Still the case.


308 posted on 07/02/2009 9:18:20 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Blue Highway

Ok, Blue, you don’t want an integrated battery source. So don’t buy a Mac. Fine. No one says you have to have one. Now why are you really here?? Because you have an agenda to smear Macs. Only an insecure man would be this level of defensive.


309 posted on 07/02/2009 9:23:49 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (*Tolerant* isn't a position, it's how you treat people who hold positions you hate....Doug TenNepal)
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To: Swordmaker; BunnySlippers

Well, we know he detests jerks like (Mac users and Porche owners)


310 posted on 07/02/2009 9:25:37 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (*Tolerant* isn't a position, it's how you treat people who hold positions you hate....Doug TenNepal)
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To: PA Engineer

>> Just curious. Were you working with National Instruments?

I have used a lot of NI products over the years, on multiple platforms. If you’re into that game, you might relate to my post at #308.

FRegards


311 posted on 07/02/2009 9:27:13 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Swordmaker
I keep my user space encrypted with AES 128 bit encryption with FileVault. Don't you?

I use TrueCrypt myself. Open source and runs on, Win, OSX and Linux.

312 posted on 07/02/2009 9:29:35 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Swordmaker
You ain't tryin' to bring facts to the argument, are yuh, boy, hmmmm???
313 posted on 07/02/2009 9:54:08 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 164 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Nervous Tick
In spite of Apple’s meager support, in various companies I have pushed Macs into industrial applications with success. The hardware and software are up to the job.

But, Apple saw profitability in K-12, desktop publishing, and the corporate desktop — not in industrial applications. Still the case.


Agree.
314 posted on 07/02/2009 10:06:58 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Blue Highway; Star Traveler; Swordmaker; TXnMA; TheBattman; vox_freedom
Sheesh!  I like to provoke Swordmaker once every couple of months and would certainly never start an anti-Mac fanboy thread.

That said, I'm sorry I missed this one for so long!  :-)

 

 


 

315 posted on 07/02/2009 12:05:43 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible
Thanks, but I personally prefer this portrait of Mr. Balmer:

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316 posted on 07/02/2009 12:58:27 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. God help us.)
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To: Deb

Im a Dellturer? Forgive me Jobs for I have sinned.


317 posted on 07/02/2009 1:03:21 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Sudetenland

Air with a Thermalright IFX-14.


318 posted on 07/02/2009 1:14:13 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: nymomx2

Listening to Rush talk about his Macs is what caused me to check them out. I bought my first one in 2000 and have used Macs ever since. My original iMac still works just fine. I just don’t like the competitors PC’s, systems are too cluttered. I like what I like. I know very few people in my area that use Macs. You cannot buy them locally here. I guess that I “Think Different”


319 posted on 07/02/2009 2:49:52 PM PDT by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: Swordmaker
If there was a great a reliability difference between commercial chips and server grade chips and the QPI made much of a "real world" defference and if Apple was building their Macs the same way I built my PC, you might be right, but there's not, it doesn't, and I'm paying retail prices for all of my hardware, they are paying wholesale prices...huge difference.

Their profit margin is well over 100% on each machine.

OH yeah, BTW the XEON is a Nehalem architecture chip and thus is an i7 based chip. You are right that it is a different die, 45nm. and thus lower power consumption, but the same basic chip.
320 posted on 07/02/2009 3:00:55 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Without God there is no freedom, for what rights man can give, he can take away.)
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