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To: Blue Highway
Apple claims to have developped a "new" battery technology for their notebook. In their promotion video, they say they are li-poly technology, which for start, is not even close to being a new technology. Li-poly has been used in RC models for years and there's nothing "new" in that.

The Li-Poly batteries that have been used in RC models are not the same. They are basic batteries. You charge them with a dumb charger, you discharge them in use. The ones that Apple DID develop are smart batteries with controlling circuitry to manage their condition and charging.

"The battery in the new MacBook Pro notebooks is made to be smart. It’s built with a chip that talks to each of its cells to determine their precise condition. The chip shares this information with the computer. And the computer uses an advanced algorithm to make delicate adjustments to the charging current, varying it to suit the changing conditions inside the cells. This Adaptive Charging reduces the wear and tear on the battery and gives it a much longer lifespan than ever before — up to five years.—Apple

That is a new technology and patented by Apple. If this is not new technology in notebook computers, where are the other notebooks using similar technology?

If I understand correctly they did proprietary square size lipo batteries that CANNOT be removed unless you send it to an Apple Service Provider. Yes, a great leap forward... for Apple

They designed batteries that fit in the multiple unused spaces inside the smaller, thinner cases of the Apple notebook line. This approach allows 40% more battery inside the computer case compared to those designs using a unitary, removable battery.

". . . removable batteries require a lot of space for connectors, latches and support. Lose the support bits - build a bigger battery."—ZDNet review of Apple's batteries
Now for Swordmaker to come here and school us on how it is not proprietary and try to convince all Apple does not nor has ever been a company to use proprietary parts.

Gee, where are the non-proprietary batteries for all those Dell, HP, and Lenovo notebooks when they first come out. What notebook manufacturer buys their notebook batteries from off the shelf offerings? Aren't they all essentially custom designed for each notebook case? After market batteries will most likely be available for Apple's MacBooks, just as third parties came out with replaceable batteries for the iPod's supposedly non-replaceable batteries, I think third parties will do the same for the Apple notebook's batteries... if they do not last the five years Apple is claiming.

Does that meet your expectations?

40 posted on 07/01/2009 12:39:58 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

I knew you were going to equate Dell and HP having different non interchangeable batteries as meaning proprietary. I am saying at least they can be user replaceable. Once your Macbook battery craps out what are YOU going to do? Go to the iDiot Bar at the Apple Store and hand over your Macbook for them and walk away without a laptop for 2-3 weeks? Nice...


44 posted on 07/01/2009 12:45:09 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Swordmaker

Sounds like a balancing charger, As used in RC for quite some time, with the same batteries.

Can I call my balancing charger “smart” now, or does it make the batteries “smart”?


49 posted on 07/01/2009 12:57:24 PM PDT by KEVLAR
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