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Hunting For Guns
Houston Chronicle ^ | 07/30/2009 | Dane Schiller

Posted on 07/01/2009 12:10:30 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican

In front of a run-down shack in north Houston, federal agents step from a government sedan into 102-degree heat and face a critical question: How can the woman living here buy four high-end handguns in one day? p>

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The house is worth $35,000. A screen dangles by a wall-unit air conditioner. Porch swing slats are smashed, the smattering of grass is flattened by cars and burned yellow by sun. “I’ll do the talking on this one,” agent Tim Sloan, of South Carolina, told partner Brian Tumiel, of New York. Success on the front lines of a government blitz on gunrunners supplying Mexican drug cartels with Houston weaponry hinges on logging heavy miles and knocking on countless doors. Dozens of agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives — sent here from around the country — are needed to follow what ATF acting director Kenneth Melson described as a “massive number of investigative leads.” All told, Mexican officials in 2008 asked federal agents to trace the origins of more than 7,500 firearms recovered at crime scenes in Mexico. Most of them were traced back to Texas, California and Arizona. Among other things, the agents are combing neighborhoods and asking people about suspicious purchases as well as seeking explanations as to how their guns ended up used in murders, kidnappings and other crimes in Mexico. “Ever turning up the heat on cartels, our law enforcement and military partners in the government of Mexico have been working more closely with the ATF by sharing information and intelligence,” Melson said Tuesday during a firearms-trafficking summit in New Mexico. Firearms dealers visited The ATF recently dispatched 100 veteran agents to its Houston division, which reaches to the border. The mission is especially challenging because, officials say, that while Houston is the number one point of origin for weapons traced back to the United States from Mexico, the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law. Agents instead review firearms dealers’ records in person. People who are legally in the United States and have clean criminal records, but are facing economic problems are often recruited by traffickers to buy weapons on their behalf in order to shield themselves from scrutiny. Knocks at the door of the shack that looked to be the definition of hard times went unanswered. “I am out of here,” Sloan said a few moments later, as a pit bull lazily sauntered from the back yard. “I don’t like pit bulls walking up behind me.” Best information source On second thought, Sloan switched to Spanish and interviewed a neighbor. The neighbor said the woman left a month ago after a fight with her husband or boyfriend, who still lived there with what she called “other degenerates.” “An angry ex-girlfriend or wife is the best person in the world, the greatest source of information,” Sloan said. The night before, the duo were in a stakeout where they watched a weapons sale. They also combined efforts with the Drug Enforcement Administration for an aircraft to stealthily follow traffickers to the border. On this day, agents weren’t wearing raid jackets or combat boots and weren’t armed with warrants. Guns were hidden under civilian shirts. Another tip took agents on a 30-minute drive from the shack to a sprawling home with a pool in the back and an American flag out front. It turned out two handguns, of a type drug gangsters prefer, were bought by a pastor for target practice. Some stories, they say, are hard to believe. The lamest so far came from a police officer: He said he bought a few military-style rifles, left them in his car and — on the same night — forgot to lock a door. He couldn’t explain why he didn’t file a police report or why he visited Mexico the day after the alleged theft.
1 posted on 07/01/2009 12:10:31 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

Paragraphs are friends


The house is worth $35,000. A screen dangles by a wall-unit air conditioner. Porch swing slats are smashed, the smattering of grass is flattened by cars and burned yellow by sun.

“I’ll do the talking on this one,” agent Tim Sloan, of South Carolina, told partner Brian Tumiel, of New York. Success on the front lines of a government blitz on gunrunners supplying Mexican drug cartels with Houston weaponry hinges on logging heavy miles and knocking on countless doors. Dozens of agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives — sent here from around the country — are needed to follow what ATF acting director Kenneth Melson described as a “massive number of investigative leads.”

All told, Mexican officials in 2008 asked federal agents to trace the origins of more than 7,500 firearms recovered at crime scenes in Mexico. Most of them were traced back to Texas, California and Arizona. Among other things, the agents are combing neighborhoods and asking people about suspicious purchases as well as seeking explanations as to how their guns ended up used in murders, kidnappings and other crimes in Mexico.

“Ever turning up the heat on cartels, our law enforcement and military partners in the government of Mexico have been working more closely with the ATF by sharing information and intelligence,” Melson said Tuesday during a firearms-trafficking summit in New Mexico.

Firearms dealers visited

The ATF recently dispatched 100 veteran agents to its Houston division, which reaches to the border. The mission is especially challenging because, officials say, that while Houston is the number one point of origin for weapons traced back to the United States from Mexico, the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law.

Agents instead review firearms dealers’ records in person. People who are legally in the United States and have clean criminal records, but are facing economic problems are often recruited by traffickers to buy weapons on their behalf in order to shield themselves from scrutiny.

Knocks at the door of the shack that looked to be the definition of hard times went unanswered. “I am out of here,” Sloan said a few moments later, as a pit bull lazily sauntered from the back yard. “I don’t like pit bulls walking up behind me.”

Best information source

On second thought, Sloan switched to Spanish and interviewed a neighbor. The neighbor said the woman left a month ago after a fight with her husband or boyfriend, who still lived there with what she called “other degenerates.” “An angry ex-girlfriend or wife is the best person in the world, the greatest source of information,” Sloan said.

The night before, the duo were in a stakeout where they watched a weapons sale. They also combined efforts with the Drug Enforcement Administration for an aircraft to stealthily follow traffickers to the border. On this day, agents weren’t wearing raid jackets or combat boots and weren’t armed with warrants. Guns were hidden under civilian shirts.

Another tip took agents on a 30-minute drive from the shack to a sprawling home with a pool in the back and an American flag out front. It turned out two handguns, of a type drug gangsters prefer, were bought by a pastor for target practice.

Some stories, they say, are hard to believe. The lamest so far came from a police officer: He said he bought a few military-style rifles, left them in his car and — on the same night — forgot to lock a door. He couldn’t explain why he didn’t file a police report or why he visited Mexico the day after the alleged theft.


2 posted on 07/01/2009 12:16:20 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Islander7

Thank you and yes they are. It was not like that in the preview.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 12:19:20 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

Free Republic has a mind of its own sometimes.


4 posted on 07/01/2009 12:20:33 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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Oh no, don’t get me wrong, I’m sure its something I did. Its just that when I was previewing it, it actually was still broken into paragraphs. I’m still trying to get a hold of the whole “posting articles” thing on here. I can be a bit, how do we say it? Technologically inept.


5 posted on 07/01/2009 12:25:40 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: Islander7

Hopefully Free Republic’ers have minds of their own all the time :)


6 posted on 07/01/2009 12:26:27 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican; Islander7

Sorry. The paragraphs don’t even help!!! Is it just too late - or does this entire article sound like it was written by a 4th grader. What is the point of the article?

“It turned out two handguns, of a type drug gangsters prefer, were bought by a pastor for target practice.”

So which is it? Preferred by drug gangsters or preachers? (Or perhaps - hey - its just a popular handgun!?)


7 posted on 07/01/2009 12:34:34 AM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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Just that it seems funny to me that they are worried about guns going out of the country, but not illegals coming into our country. And who are they to base an investigation on what someone may or may not be able to afford? You are right though, it is a bit of a fourth grade article.


8 posted on 07/01/2009 12:37:35 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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How can the woman living here buy four high-end handguns in one day?

It's simple - she has her priorities straight!

9 posted on 07/01/2009 12:41:31 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

Oh - I understand YOUR reason for posting the article. The article itself was rambling and wandering and fairly pointless, but with some gems hidden within:

“... the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law. Agents instead review firearms dealers’ records in person....”


10 posted on 07/01/2009 12:43:17 AM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: Vanders9
Hopefully Free Republic’ers have minds of their own all the time :)

Ha! FReepers definitely have minds of their own...and opinions too. Just ask 'em. Ain't too many shy folks around these parts.

11 posted on 07/01/2009 12:48:16 AM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Rummyfan

No doubt, that is my number one priority.


12 posted on 07/01/2009 12:55:54 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: 21twelve

Ah, got ya, its late. Glad I wasn’t the only one that caught those gems as well. I was laready thinking, dang, I already posted another poor article. HAHAHA.


13 posted on 07/01/2009 12:57:10 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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worried about guns going out of the country, but not illegals coming into our country

Guns going out of the country do not vote Democrat in US elections.

14 posted on 07/01/2009 1:28:45 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican

I would never sell a gun, no matter how much profit I could get, to an evil doer. Evil doers include everyone who can not pass a background check or who are engaged in some sort of criminal activity. Although with all our laws it may be impossible to not be engaged in some kind of illegal activity.

Even a million dollars would not tempt me.

That said, the govt. has no business checking on people who make gun purchases. None whatsoever. Will I cooperate if they come to my door? Yes I will, after I call my lawyer and I will also call 911 to make sure they are really policemen.


15 posted on 07/01/2009 1:32:49 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen (Fear a government who fears it's armed citizens.)
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Will I cooperate if they come to my door? Yes I will, after I call my lawyer and I will also call 911 to make sure they are really policemen.

You may not want to cooperate even then.

16 posted on 07/01/2009 1:54:17 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: ThanhPhero

I believe you are right on in that.


17 posted on 07/01/2009 1:55:27 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

I agree, but if they come to my door they better have a warrant. No one comes in my house unless invited or has a warrant in hand. The lawyer is a good idea though.


18 posted on 07/01/2009 1:56:50 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Nice example of why not to cooperate.


19 posted on 07/01/2009 2:01:04 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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To: Islander7
Borders? What Borders.

So it's easier to smuggle thousands out of guns of the USA, than to stop
the tonnage of drugs coming in? WOW!

This gun problem is most certainly AMERICA'S FAULT, and BUSH is to blame somewhere.


What hyperbolic crap.

20 posted on 07/01/2009 2:03:06 AM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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